Who Manufactures Dahon?
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dahon makes their own bikes.
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Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
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Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
https://sanfrancisco.ibtimes.com/arti...ger-photos.htm
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#6
KAMTSA
its christmas season.... dont muddle the waters with your comments , you know what I mean , and you know the answer to your question quite as well. I have tried to explain this over and over ... it should by now have sunk in....
to the original question.
Most Dahon bikes are built in Dahon own factory in China also the residence of David Hon who runs the plant. Dahon also has smaller satelite locations some in Macau as I recall ( they are building some bikes for the local market there, or close by ) and they have a coperation with a plant in Europe to assemble bikes in Europe. In the past the Euro bikes were very very similar to the ones built in China, I do however not know about the new plant in Europe as Dahon has switched from Tchecoslowakia to Hungary ( I am pretty sure) ..... Everybody knows that Europe has a stiff custom tariff on all bikes made outside the EU and therefore a assembly location in Europe makes good sense.
Anyhow... back to the OP why are you asking ?
thor
its christmas season.... dont muddle the waters with your comments , you know what I mean , and you know the answer to your question quite as well. I have tried to explain this over and over ... it should by now have sunk in....
to the original question.
Most Dahon bikes are built in Dahon own factory in China also the residence of David Hon who runs the plant. Dahon also has smaller satelite locations some in Macau as I recall ( they are building some bikes for the local market there, or close by ) and they have a coperation with a plant in Europe to assemble bikes in Europe. In the past the Euro bikes were very very similar to the ones built in China, I do however not know about the new plant in Europe as Dahon has switched from Tchecoslowakia to Hungary ( I am pretty sure) ..... Everybody knows that Europe has a stiff custom tariff on all bikes made outside the EU and therefore a assembly location in Europe makes good sense.
Anyhow... back to the OP why are you asking ?
thor
#7
Hi Thor, the facade of a single Dahon company is over. The court documents show clearly that the split happened more than 10 years ago. With all the respect, you are the only one that still tries to perpetuate this old PR image. The two Dahons already gave up. Read for example the fine print at the bottom of Dahon Taiwan's site https://www.dahon.com .
Anyway, happy holidays.
Anyway, happy holidays.
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From: A Coffin Called Earth. or Toronto, ON
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don't forget that if it breaks, you are out of luck getting it warrantied.
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Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
https://sanfrancisco.ibtimes.com/arti...ger-photos.htm
Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
https://sanfrancisco.ibtimes.com/arti...ger-photos.htm
Last edited by AEO; 12-21-11 at 05:18 AM.
#10
Kamtsa I said it before.... Court stuff, and lawyer who are trying to make themself rich on this deal are of NO INTEREST to me.
What is of interest is the bikes the two companies Dahon and Tern are producing, the pricepoints, the quality and such.
What was in the past, who owned what and where is not my concern at all.
I am a dealer who makes ( partly anyhow) his lifelyhood selling the bikes of the two companies. Therefore I should be concerned if there would be any "meat" to all that talk. But I am not .
A consumer who is buying a bike ( its just a bicycle you know, not a house ) is not at all exposed to any of this anyhow. Therefore I do not understand why on heavens earth you are slinging this mud around all the time. Does that serve any purpose ? Are you involved in this behind the scene family drama ? Lets hear ..I am willing to learn
to the OP... I do not think that any subsupplier would risk his partnership with a major customer, selling one bike straight out. Besides this would be almost impossible o do anyhow ...Reason : The company like Dahon or Tern or SpecializedTrek or whatever ... makes a contract, they will order and pay for the components usually which are send to the assemble, which gets a cut for every bike being assembled.... sometimes contracts are different, but in general it works like that..... as long as they pay their invoices it will be next to imossible to walk out with a bike....
thor
What is of interest is the bikes the two companies Dahon and Tern are producing, the pricepoints, the quality and such.
What was in the past, who owned what and where is not my concern at all.
I am a dealer who makes ( partly anyhow) his lifelyhood selling the bikes of the two companies. Therefore I should be concerned if there would be any "meat" to all that talk. But I am not .
A consumer who is buying a bike ( its just a bicycle you know, not a house ) is not at all exposed to any of this anyhow. Therefore I do not understand why on heavens earth you are slinging this mud around all the time. Does that serve any purpose ? Are you involved in this behind the scene family drama ? Lets hear ..I am willing to learn
to the OP... I do not think that any subsupplier would risk his partnership with a major customer, selling one bike straight out. Besides this would be almost impossible o do anyhow ...Reason : The company like Dahon or Tern or SpecializedTrek or whatever ... makes a contract, they will order and pay for the components usually which are send to the assemble, which gets a cut for every bike being assembled.... sometimes contracts are different, but in general it works like that..... as long as they pay their invoices it will be next to imossible to walk out with a bike....
thor
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Kamtsa I said it before.... Court stuff, and lawyer who are trying to make themself rich on this deal are of NO INTEREST to me.
What is of interest is the bikes the two companies Dahon and Tern are producing, the pricepoints, the quality and such.
What was in the past, who owned what and where is not my concern at all.
I am a dealer who makes ( partly anyhow) his lifelyhood selling the bikes of the two companies. Therefore I should be concerned if there would be any "meat" to all that talk. But I am not .
A consumer who is buying a bike ( its just a bicycle you know, not a house ) is not at all exposed to any of this anyhow. Therefore I do not understand why on heavens earth you are slinging this mud around all the time. Does that serve any purpose ? Are you involved in this behind the scene family drama ? Lets hear ..I am willing to learn
to the OP... I do not think that any subsupplier would risk his partnership with a major customer, selling one bike straight out. Besides this would be almost impossible o do anyhow ...Reason : The company like Dahon or Tern or SpecializedTrek or whatever ... makes a contract, they will order and pay for the components usually which are send to the assemble, which gets a cut for every bike being assembled.... sometimes contracts are different, but in general it works like that..... as long as they pay their invoices it will be next to imossible to walk out with a bike....
thor
What is of interest is the bikes the two companies Dahon and Tern are producing, the pricepoints, the quality and such.
What was in the past, who owned what and where is not my concern at all.
I am a dealer who makes ( partly anyhow) his lifelyhood selling the bikes of the two companies. Therefore I should be concerned if there would be any "meat" to all that talk. But I am not .
A consumer who is buying a bike ( its just a bicycle you know, not a house ) is not at all exposed to any of this anyhow. Therefore I do not understand why on heavens earth you are slinging this mud around all the time. Does that serve any purpose ? Are you involved in this behind the scene family drama ? Lets hear ..I am willing to learn
to the OP... I do not think that any subsupplier would risk his partnership with a major customer, selling one bike straight out. Besides this would be almost impossible o do anyhow ...Reason : The company like Dahon or Tern or SpecializedTrek or whatever ... makes a contract, they will order and pay for the components usually which are send to the assemble, which gets a cut for every bike being assembled.... sometimes contracts are different, but in general it works like that..... as long as they pay their invoices it will be next to imossible to walk out with a bike....
thor
#12
As for consumers buying Dahon bikes, they need to know who is behind it, Dahon 1 or Dahon 2 (two independent companies).
Anyway, happy holidays.
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Why would they need to know? You go to a bike shop, buy a Dahon, simple. I don't really see what impact it might have on the bike shopper. Even for me, knowing that there are two companies, what does it matter? As long as I like the bike and it does what I need it to do, then whoever has control of factories or whatever and court cases, let them slide. I'll ride.
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It's very simple, there is a big gap between the ideal world perception presented to us and the reality. If you really want to learn, read the documents submitted under penalty of perjury and you will understand. Don't blame the lawyers, they did not create a false appearance.
As for consumers buying Dahon bikes, they need to know who is behind it, Dahon 1 or Dahon 2 (two independent companies).
Anyway, happy holidays.
As for consumers buying Dahon bikes, they need to know who is behind it, Dahon 1 or Dahon 2 (two independent companies).
Anyway, happy holidays.
Does this mean that I have to meet the cow and get to know it before I had it turned into a nice juicy steak?
#15
to the OP, if you are in Taiwan, why not check out the ORI?
https://www.oribikes.com/products/det...=0&cID=1&Key=1
the Surpaz CR87 is a sweet looking bike.
as is the CR1.0
https://www.oribikes.com/products/det...0&cID=1&Key=28
the dealer is in Tachia Town, Taichung Hsien. might be worth a look if you are there.
https://www.oribikes.com/products/det...=0&cID=1&Key=1
the Surpaz CR87 is a sweet looking bike.
as is the CR1.0
https://www.oribikes.com/products/det...0&cID=1&Key=28
the dealer is in Tachia Town, Taichung Hsien. might be worth a look if you are there.
#16
Why would they need to know? You go to a bike shop, buy a Dahon, simple. I don't really see what impact it might have on the bike shopper. Even for me, knowing that there are two companies, what does it matter? As long as I like the bike and it does what I need it to do, then whoever has control of factories or whatever and court cases, let them slide. I'll ride.
I find the practice of 'we will sell you a bike from independent company A or independent company B but will make it vague which one' to be strange.
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Wow I didn't realize my simple question would stir up so much discussion. Anyway;
badrad, Thanks for the tip, I'll check out he ORI.
AEO, good point, I may end up paying for a Less than Container Load (LCL) and ship a bunch of stuff back when I leave since I have a 4 bikes and a motorcycle right now and that could grow. Any shops in Toronto you know have good deals? Parents are in Waterloo.
Thor, I agree, I can't get a complete Dohan exactly like one you'd get in a shop direct from the factory, but I can get a 'Dohan' frame, then source the components in the same way dont you think. I went to the Tapei Cycle Show last spring, you can clearly tell who does the OEM for SRAM, FSA, etc., they show off the 'factory' model but use the same colors and typesetting as their most famous contract manufacturer. I asked, do you do OEM for SRAM, the guy smiles and say, I cannot tell you that information.
badrad, Thanks for the tip, I'll check out he ORI.
AEO, good point, I may end up paying for a Less than Container Load (LCL) and ship a bunch of stuff back when I leave since I have a 4 bikes and a motorcycle right now and that could grow. Any shops in Toronto you know have good deals? Parents are in Waterloo.
Thor, I agree, I can't get a complete Dohan exactly like one you'd get in a shop direct from the factory, but I can get a 'Dohan' frame, then source the components in the same way dont you think. I went to the Tapei Cycle Show last spring, you can clearly tell who does the OEM for SRAM, FSA, etc., they show off the 'factory' model but use the same colors and typesetting as their most famous contract manufacturer. I asked, do you do OEM for SRAM, the guy smiles and say, I cannot tell you that information.
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Actually from the customer's POV, it does end at the bike shop. That's where you take your broken bike for any warranty issues. From then on it's the bike shop's baby. The customer has no recourse with the manufacturer.
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Wow I didn't realize my simple question would stir up so much discussion. Anyway;
badrad, Thanks for the tip, I'll check out he ORI.
AEO, good point, I may end up paying for a Less than Container Load (LCL) and ship a bunch of stuff back when I leave since I have a 4 bikes and a motorcycle right now and that could grow. Any shops in Toronto you know have good deals? Parents are in Waterloo.
Thor, I agree, I can't get a complete Dohan exactly like one you'd get in a shop direct from the factory, but I can get a 'Dohan' frame, then source the components in the same way dont you think. I went to the Tapei Cycle Show last spring, you can clearly tell who does the OEM for SRAM, FSA, etc., they show off the 'factory' model but use the same colors and typesetting as their most famous contract manufacturer. I asked, do you do OEM for SRAM, the guy smiles and say, I cannot tell you that information.
badrad, Thanks for the tip, I'll check out he ORI.
AEO, good point, I may end up paying for a Less than Container Load (LCL) and ship a bunch of stuff back when I leave since I have a 4 bikes and a motorcycle right now and that could grow. Any shops in Toronto you know have good deals? Parents are in Waterloo.
Thor, I agree, I can't get a complete Dohan exactly like one you'd get in a shop direct from the factory, but I can get a 'Dohan' frame, then source the components in the same way dont you think. I went to the Tapei Cycle Show last spring, you can clearly tell who does the OEM for SRAM, FSA, etc., they show off the 'factory' model but use the same colors and typesetting as their most famous contract manufacturer. I asked, do you do OEM for SRAM, the guy smiles and say, I cannot tell you that information.
urbane, duke's, etc.
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Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
https://sanfrancisco.ibtimes.com/arti...ger-photos.htm
Food for thought: if you aren't dead by 2050, you and your entire family will be within a few years from starvation. Now that is a cruel gift to leave for your offspring. ;)
https://sanfrancisco.ibtimes.com/arti...ger-photos.htm
#20
Jur, read the warranty that you got with the bike. The Dahon warranty for example starts with 'Dahon warrants ...'. It binds Dahon, not the retailer. Same as a car warranty binds the car manufacturer, not the dealer that sold you the car. Problem is that there are two independent companies operating under the name Dahon and they do not clarify which of the two is bound by the warranty you get. It's odd.
Last edited by kamtsa; 12-22-11 at 12:38 AM.
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Look I know all this, read my post - if your bike breaks you DON'T go to the manufacturer - you go to the dealer. End of story. Whether its Dahon China or Dahon Global, I don't care. The shop must handle the issue. I'm going for a ride now.
#22
Why would they need to know? You go to a bike shop, buy a Dahon, simple. I don't really see what impact it might have on the bike shopper. Even for me, knowing that there are two companies, what does it matter? As long as I like the bike and it does what I need it to do, then whoever has control of factories or whatever and court cases, let them slide. I'll ride.
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I would also like to just point out that even those the frame might be made in the same country or even a factory down the street or even the same factory as the real dahon bike, the unauthorized frames are going to be a lot more hit and miss with more variance in quality. of course you might get lucky but what you really pay for when you buy the name brand is not only the r&d but also the quality control and resulting warranty service.
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#25
Maybe look at Craiglist or similar? Quite often peopel buy or get foldingbikes, keep them for several years but hardly use them and then sell them at approx half price. I bought two Bromptons and one Dahon curve that was almost untouched this summer and autumn.



