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rex615 03-01-12 06:27 PM

Citta Minivelo
 
I have been curious about Minivelos and wanted to try one. I narrowed it down to the Nano and the Citta since most of the other offerings seem to be target the singlespeed/fixie crowd with their horizontal dropouts.

I picked this one over the Nano for a few reasons

Aluminum frame
Threadless fork
Vee brakes
Straight bars
Came with fenders and a kickstand included.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-l...0/000_0003.JPG

ttakata73 03-01-12 08:00 PM

Cool ride.
Let us know how it rides and stuff.

feijai 03-01-12 11:14 PM

Protip for Americans: "citta" (actually "cittą") is Italian for "city". It's pronounced chee-TAH.

I noticed the company didn't add the accent on the bike decal. :-(

rex615 03-02-12 04:56 AM


Originally Posted by feijai (Post 13921129)
Protip for Americans: "citta" (actually "cittą") is Italian for "city". It's pronounced chee-TAH.

I noticed the company didn't add the accent on the bike decal. :-(

Good name for a "city" bike, although it is actually the company name, the model name is Gazelle.

These might be left over stock, since the citabikes domain seems no longer active.

All of the online places selling these bikes show photos with the citta name blanked out.

rex615 03-02-12 05:30 AM

So I got to ride it yesterday, about 30 miles with some hills. I really like the ride, the bike accelerates quickly and handles very well. Because of the small wheels it has many of the same agile characteristics of a good folder , but with a more rigid platform, particularly when you get out of the seat to “dance on the pedals.” (not that my climbing could be considered dancing).

The bike is plenty fast, a quality which shows one of its shortcomings, short gearing. Since the bike sports a freewheel and not a cassette, the smallest cog is a 14. So that is a 52 pulling a 14 compared to a 53 pulling an 11 on my Mu. A cassette hub is certainly an upgrade to consider. On the other end however a 42 pulling a 28 makes for good climbing and this bike likes to climb. I am certainly pleased in that regard, because I line in the North Carolina Hills.

The bike came with 100psi 1.25 Kenda Kwests (Which is surprising for what it cost.) They are fast, but at full pressure they are a bit harsh. The fork and frame seem to have clearance for bigger tires, so I might try a set of Primo Comets that were destined for the velomobile.

The wheels have machined contact surfaces which make the brakes work very well. They are however singlewall and not doublewall as advertised.

One issue is that the seat post was too short, so I had make a longer one up (that is the one in the photo) it is however a 27.2 so getting a proper one won't be a problem. I may also add a stem extender to achieve a bit more upright position, at least bring the handlebars level with the seat. For reference I am 5'11'' (180cm) but I have long legs for my height and prefer longer pedal extension (size 12 feet).

All in all I am very pleased and plan to ride this bike plenty. I will undoubtedly make some upgrades to it. One that I may do this weekend is, changing out the nutted axles and putting in some QRs, save me from carrying a 15mm spanner all the time.

Poguemahone 03-02-12 06:50 AM

Yep, you'll need to rehack the gearing. Go to 11 for a small cog, then 54 or so up front. The Nanos had equally wimpy gearing.

rex615 03-02-12 07:33 PM

I changed the seat post for Ritchey and topped it off with a nicer seat. I also added a stem extender to raise the handlebars. I like the new position much better and as an unexpected bonus, being in a better position has allowed me to get my cadence back up to normal, so the gearing doesn't feel as short.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-p...0/000_0009.JPG
https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-6...0/000_0010.JPG
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-L...0/000_0008.JPG

monsterpile 03-02-12 09:48 PM

Yay someone finally bought one of these! Keep the reports coming. I was so tempted to get one of these a number of times.

itsmoot 03-02-12 11:32 PM

IIRC when this bike was posted before I said it looked like a poor-mans Smoothhound. But now that I've checked out Dahon's new website from a post in another thread, I'd say it's exactly like a non-folding Dahon Dash:

http://dahonbikes.com/uploads/tx_dah...8_gross_01.png

I'll also amend "poor-man" to "budget" or "economical" if that offends anyone's pride ;)

rex615 03-03-12 04:32 AM


Originally Posted by monsterpile (Post 13924861)
Yay someone finally bought one of these! Keep the reports coming. I was so tempted to get one of these a number of times.

Will do. I scoured the internet looking for any reports on these and found nothing. I almost got a Nano, because it was a known quantity, but finally decided to take a gamble, on this one. Glad I did, features on the Nano like the brakes, (lots of hills where I live) would have been a compromise that would be difficult to upgrade.

rex615 03-03-12 04:43 AM


Originally Posted by itsmoot (Post 13925111)
IIRC when this bike was posted before I said it looked like a poor-mans Smoothhound. But now that I've checked out Dahon's new website from a post in another thread, I'd say it's exactly like a non-folding Dahon Dash:


I'll also amend "poor-man" to "budget" or "economical" if that offends anyone's pride ;)


Aside from the curved toptube, the resemblance to the Dash is undeniable. The white bands on the frame are even in the same place as on the Smooth Hound. I am sure that is not a coincidence. Makes me wonder what the intended market was for this bike and what happen to Citta Bikes.

rex615 03-03-12 07:04 PM

Today I changed the stock Kenda Kwest 1.25 tires for some Primo Comets 1.5. These are also 100 psi tires and have a kevlar belt. Does anyone know if the Kwest have a kevlar belt?

I also changed the fenders, since it was easier than modifying the stock ones. Plus they are black and seem to blend in better.

There is still clearance for more tire. I bet I could stuff some Big Apples in there if I didn't run fenders.

Rode it 40 miles today and not surprisingly, the ride is better with the bigger tires. As a very subjective observation the Comets feel faster, particularly on chipseal.

I also changed out the nutted axles a put in QRs.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-F...0/000_0012.JPG

rex615 03-04-12 10:56 AM

Some mini bar ends for the mini velo.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-k...25281%2529.JPG

rex615 03-05-12 02:50 PM

I found this retro Shimano 600 crankset in the parts bins, complete with its cartridge BB bearings.
It is a 53 - 39 so a bit wider range than the 52 -42 it replaced. Funny thing though, the stock one was pinned and ramped, this one isn't. Well at least it is lighter since it has alloy chainrings as opposed to steel ones on the stock version.

It is true what they say about how some of these bikes are assembled, everything was supper tight and there was hardly any grease in the bearings.

Also added some SPD pedals.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-s.../Chainring.JPG

rex615 03-10-12 07:10 PM

Installed rear rack. The new fender had longer stays which allowed me to use the bottom holes in the drop outs. This freed up the top holes for the rack.

Did a metric century today (hilly terrain), and I can say that this bike is quickly becoming my favorite upright bike.

I still have to sort out the gearing, and I am thinking of putting on some trekking bars (AKA Euro bars or butterfly bars) so I can get more hand positions.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-C...w%2520Rack.jpg

rex615 03-13-12 01:30 PM

Here she is with some bags for some light touring I did this weekend.

The pannier is actually a shopping bag carrier and works great for that because you can actually take it into the store with you. When the bag is full, you are done shopping.

https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-0...2520Loaded.jpg

monsterpile 03-13-12 10:23 PM

That looks great! I am enjoying your updates.

EM42 03-14-12 02:50 AM

is that italian made or china its probably a dahon i hope im wrong

rex615 03-14-12 04:40 AM


Originally Posted by monsterpile (Post 13969308)
That looks great! I am enjoying your updates.

Thanks! It has been a fun project so far.

rex615 03-14-12 04:43 AM


Originally Posted by EM42 (Post 13969667)
is that italian made or china its probably a dahon i hope im wrong

It is made in China. It is not a Dahon and doesn't fold like the Dahons it looks like. Strangely, I have been able to find very little information about it on the internet.

Dynocoaster 03-14-12 08:31 AM

The first Dahon Smoothhounds didnt fold. The frames may have been left overs? What is the axle size on the front fork? Looking good.

rex615 03-14-12 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by Dynocoaster (Post 13970423)
The first Dahon Smoothhounds didnt fold.

I didn't know that.


Originally Posted by Dynocoaster (Post 13970423)
The frames may have been left overs?

Were there ever any Smoothhounds with a curved top tube like this one?


Originally Posted by Dynocoaster (Post 13970423)
What is the axle size on the front fork?

100 mm


Originally Posted by Dynocoaster (Post 13970423)
Looking good.

Well, thank you.

monsterpile 03-16-12 12:32 AM

I was just looking this bike up again and it looks like you bought just in time. They raised the price to $350.

rex615 03-16-12 04:31 AM


Originally Posted by monsterpile (Post 13977890)
I was just looking this bike up again and it looks like you bought just in time. They raised the price to $350.

Thanks for the update. I thought they were trying to get rid of the last inventory, therefore the low price but who knows.

For the record, I paid $250 including shipping.

Joe Loco 03-28-12 12:27 PM

Got one ordered up from the latest deal, can't wait to get ahold of it and start some mods!

rex615, a few q.'s:
- how decent is the wheel set? any idea of the rear hub spacing?
- would the decals be easily removable?
- are there 2 kickstand mounts on this thing, or is that just clamped on to the stay?
- are the seattube internals pretty smooth, i.e. will it work well with the stock Q/R for easy drop-the-post stowage?
- am looking for good ideas for hacking together a q/r "foldable" stem/steerer...

rex615 03-28-12 07:09 PM


Originally Posted by Joe Loco (Post 14027676)
Got one ordered up from the latest deal, can't wait to get ahold of it and start some mods!

rex615, a few q.'s:
1- how decent is the wheel set? any idea of the rear hub spacing?
2- would the decals be easily removable?
3- are there 2 kickstand mounts on this thing, or is that just clamped on to the stay?
4- are the seattube internals pretty smooth, i.e. will it work well with the stock Q/R for easy drop-the-post stowage?
5- am looking for good ideas for hacking together a q/r "foldable" stem/steerer...

I am in the Big Apple till this weekend, so I don't have the bike here. I will check then and reply. For now.....

1- Single wall alloy wheels with machined braking surfaces. The spokes aren't stainless steel. I think the rear spacing is 130mm, but I will check. The wheel of my Catrike Trail fits with no problem and it has a standard 9 speed cassette.

2 - The Citta logo seems to be paint not a decal, that or it is under clear coat.

3 - Yes there are two kickstand mounts, one in the regular place, behind the BB bracket and on on the chainstay near the rear axle.

4 - I need to check, but I think so.

5 - Fork is threadless, but I guess you could still use a quill type stem with hinge like some folders use.

alexaschwanden 03-28-12 10:49 PM

Nice minivelo bike.

rex615 03-29-12 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by alexaschwanden (Post 14030023)
Nice minivelo bike.

Thanks, best kept secret in cycling, these things are lots of fun.

rex615 04-09-12 08:17 PM

To experiment with the effect of higher gearing, I grafted the rear wheel from my Catrike onto this bike. The experiment worked OK gearing wise, but I had two issues, the trike wheel is designed for a disc brake only and had no proper surfaces for the Vee bake pads. Also the rear del of the trike (a SRAM X-7) was bent and worn so the shifting was lousy. However I was encouraged to pursue the modification with proper parts.

I was able to find a used rear wheel with an Alex rim and a SRAM 7.0 cassette hub. I also got an eight speed SRAM cassette (11 - 32) to go on it. I also scored an old Spinergy QR skewer to top it off.

The real find was a pull off 10 speed SRAM XO rear del, it even has the carbon fiber cage. Bling! For this bike it is a bit like putting diamond earrings on the house dog but I got a really good deal on it so I couldn't pass it up.

I am still waiting on a grip shifter that is on order, so maybe this weekend I will get a chance to wrench on it,

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-d...0/100_0827.JPG

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-O...0/100_0829.JPG

cb60089 04-15-12 09:05 PM

I received my Mini Velo last week. Bike Fender, Front was not in the box. I couldn't adjust rear derailleur as maybe it was bent in shipping.I took to local bike shop and the next day they had it going through all the gears no problem. Don't think this bike will be seeing any rain days so probably will remove front bike fender. I am posting photos of my first ride with the bike. Fast and fun. I compare it to my Dahon folding bike and it rides day and night. Very fun bike. I added a water bottle cage, bike seat bag, and handle bar bell so far. I bought a rear rack and plan to attach it soon and add photo.

https://picasaweb.google.com/1115995...eat=directlink


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