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Has anyone tried to hang either a Klickfix or Brompton bag onto the stem using a Caddy/Rhinowalk adapter?
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This bike design looks uniquely unsuited for a Brompton block. As you likely know, it works well if it is connected to the frame rather than parts of the steerer setup.
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Yes, but has someone tried either adapter?
Ideally, some of the bag's weight would sit on the stem. -- Edit: A couple of Minoura mounts is a third option: https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...95464845c3.png https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...760b965382.png https://criticalcycling.com/2018/02/...-easy-version/ https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/Minour...dp/B00497F5KK/ https://www facebook . com/groups/329730464430691/?multi_permalinks=1447468359323557 |
Originally Posted by Winfried
(Post 23698231)
Yes, but has someone tried either adapter?
Ideally, some of the bag's weight would sit on the stem... https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...26b8728dc1.jpg https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...69efa48486.jpg https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...fc441a7379.jpg I would first install the caddy on the seatpost than on the steering column. Like this: https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...076bce9bbb.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...7090885530.jpg |
Sure, but the stem on the Ori prevents that solution
On another folder, I don't notice much difference in steering with a few kilos in a stem bag hanging from that Klickfix Caddy adapter. Since I carry about 8-10kgs in my Brompton touring bag, I'll investigate that Minoura clamps + L bracket + Brompton carrier block setup |
I mounted Brompton blocks on several bikes not foreseen with any mounting points for it (two Moulton, two Birdy, two Tern) and found out that the lateral torque applied by the bag on the block is very high. This torque increases when the bag is wide (40cm, which is the width of the widest original Brompton bags, or more like possible with the Radical Design Roltoptas) or/and heavily loaded (at or above the 10kg limit specified by Brompton).
I am afraid that a clamp around a round tube won't prevent the block mounting to turn around this tube. Drilling a small hole in both the clamp and tube and putting a pin in it that prevent the clamp to turn around the tube would help. |
Thanks for the tip. Or I could just run a couple of straps from the handlebar to the bag's frame to prevent the clamps from turning around the stem.
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Just do it. Mount the block with those straps that are set by screws. I think my Swytch kit has a 4-pound battery, and I don't notice that. You could also attach a saddlebag as shown. I think that on most folders you would be limited by knee space and would not notice that.
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I saw that this page has additional attachments about 3/4 way down the page.
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Originally Posted by Winfried
(Post 23698037)
Has anyone tried to hang either a Klickfix or Brompton bag onto the stem using a Caddy/Rhinowalk adapter?
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I'm speculating, but perhaps the issue is more to do with the distance off the steering axis that weight is applied. So that if the weight were concentric with the steering axis, there would be less problem with the flop, like caused by baskets.
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More weight on the steering has always an influence on how the steering behaves.
The same happens with low riders pannier on the fork and with ebikes that have a front hub motor where the additional weight is placed much lower. |
Originally Posted by Jipe
(Post 23701851)
More weight on the steering has always an influence on how the steering behaves.
The same happens with low riders pannier on the fork and with ebikes that have a front hub motor where the additional weight is placed much lower. |
It depend of what is considered to be a problem.
If a problem mean that the bike is unusable, then its not a problem. If a problem mean that the bike is less pleasant to ride, then yes its a problem (at least for me). I had a front rack for low riders and low riders on one bike and, even if the bike was fully usable and still safe to ride, definitely didn't like them, I replaced them by a Brompton block on the head tube (custom mounting, there were no mounting points) + a front bag and what was a problem for me disappeared, i.e. the steering was again like without front bag or low riders. |
Originally Posted by Jipe
(Post 23702033)
It depend of what is considered to be a problem.
If a problem mean that the bike is unusable, then its not a problem. If a problem mean that the bike is less pleasant to ride, then yes its a problem (at least for me). I had a front rack for low riders and low riders on one bike and, even if the bike was fully usable and still safe to ride, definitely didn't like them, I replaced them by a Brompton block on the head tube (custom mounting, there were no mounting points) + a front bag and what was a problem for me disappeared, i.e. the steering was again like without front bag or low riders. |
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