Ekdog

I asked over at the Brompton message board and got no response, so I'd thought I'd try here.

Do any of you carry your pets on your Brommies? I'm thinking of acquiring one of
those Brompton folding baskets for my 12-kilo French Bulldog, Lula, who loves
coming along with me. Do you think the folding basket would stand up to her
weight? Any other solutions?

fietsbob

bike trailer.. there are some for dogs .
i dont have any pet. I do have a Bike trailer.. carry freedom [city, in my case] uses a ball Shaped hitch
so the rear fold still holds up the bike as before ..

the CF,c includes a nylon bag, slings into the frame with 1 strap.

you could pay someone, with a sewing machine to make an alternate way to use the space..

UK based Carry freedom Y trailer uses a flat deck.. maybe just a bit of carpet on it would offer dog claw grip

+ you could fit a pet carrier box on top.

badmother

I just gave you this answer In the Yahoo B forum:

I think it should work fine. I think I would add some sort of solid sheet (like
plywood, aluminium or hard plastic) in the bottom, with the exact same size as
the bottom. I would suggest you use the B basket over the Clickfix basket (I own
both) since it is sturdyer. Not much space to mowe in there but that can be good
also. A fairly tight space (and being able to lean on the solid frame) can make
the ride more comfortable than bouncing around in a big space with no rigid
"walls".

I think the basket is ok for shorter rides, on longer ones I agree with fietsbob a trailer is better.

About fietsbobs suggestion for trailer: I have a sewing machine (actually several) but I would not touch the Carry Freedom City bag and try to change it to use it for a dog. What you CAN do if you like that trailer is to just strap a box (i use a foldable one for my dog) on top of the frame.

I use the cheaper Y frame flatbed from Carry Freedom with this box: https://www.dutchbikebits.com/index.p...product_id=221

This is the setup: https://www.flickr.com/photos/77836183@N08/7531450774/

Edit: Take a lokk at Flickr. Several pix of dogs in B baskets there. Also some peopel have a solid box (not foldable) ziptied to a Brompton luggageframe with dog innside. Could be the best solution if you have the space to store it. Here is a solid crate I have ziptied to the older type (all metal) B luggageframe.


Brompton w B17 and front box.

fietsbob

I was thinking of a Grid Of seat belt webbing and snaps , or grommets and bolts and Wingnuts ,
joining folded ends of the Belt webbing, around the frame, to make my Carry Freedom City into a Basket .

badmother

Ok. If I understand you correctly it should be doable but a lot of work. I would worry about the dog being close to the ground (and sticks and stones) and parts (of the dog) sticking out if not done properly.

kamtsa

This may give you ideas https://tinyurl.com/m3vlxg3

fietsbob

I am not the dog owner , the OP is. my concept is Making The CF C, more utilitarian..

It is smaller than the Burly Flatbed.

they have rear edge rollers like the stock Brommy Rack rollers,
may replace the barely big enough, to not drag on a hard surface wheels
with a rack set of EZ wheels. to easily roll the trailer on edge , as intended .
folding the cable stayed wheels In... and the tongue down It stows in a small space.

badmother

Fietsbob- sometimes you are simply confusing (or confused)?

Good thing with a trailer (over a basket) is that on longer rides the dog can jump in and out on his own, without you having to securely park the bike (double kickstand is good here) and help him in. This of course depends a lot on the dog- but mine do.

Good thing about the basket is it is light and easy compared to a trailer and you only have to deal with your bikes two wheels.

smallwheeler

hehe...

kamtsa

Real dogs don't do baskets

ilynne

I see a guy riding with a dog in one of those B folding baskets once in a while. They both look pretty happy.

fietsbob

There is that guy who had dog on a leash alongside the trailer, no lights and said an overtaking rider almost hit the dog
which was unseen and on opposite side of the MUP..

i just see dogs dont have any , nor Cats. try to keep the ferile ones from fighting over my crawl space..

badmother

Real dogs will some day be old- and need somewhere to rest. Also I tend to put the dog in the trailer when riding trough traffic to avoid problems. We once had an accident where the dog cut his paw badly and needed a ride home.

Three yrs ago we did a two days 160 km ride with the dog. Can not be done with a regular family dog unless he can rest when needed. We often used the Dogbike2 https://www.bikeforums.net/showthread...-a-new-Dogbike I use the trailer more now since he need more help to get in and out of the dogbike bag as he is strapped in when riding there. Easyer to jump in and out of the trailer.

My "real dog" is old and with bad legs and is not going to survive this summer- so I think I`ll keep offering him a ride.

Ekdog

Thanks for all of the great suggestions.

As this is just for riding around town, and because I like to have my dog where I can keep my eye on her, I think I'll opt for something on the bars, perhaps the B. Folding Basket or a ziptied box.

fietsbob

Particularly at low speeds, The Frame Mount , so the weight in the basket does not have to be shifted,
each time you turn the wheel, is the better
in that situation than big newsboy basket on the fork , braced to the handlebars..

20" front wheel , lets the load c of g come down too..

Ekdog

You're right. I shouldn't have said 'on the bars'. The Brompton frame mount is definitely the way to go.

fietsbob

But not loading a 12-kilo, or 26.4 pound dog the frame piece is after all, Plastic ,
as Are the Bag frames now a days , nylon and aluminum tubing..

You need less Dog. to stay within that bikes weight capacity

You need a front carrier welded or Bolted on and made of probably steel ..
and other than custom modified no folding ones exist.

back to the trailer idea.

badmother

Peopel atatch childseats to the luggageblock, and ask how many overloaded the T bag. He is not going to jump curbs with the dog in. Take a look at Flickr what peopel hang on the luggageblock.

Edit: https://www.practicalcycles.com/userimages/procart27.htm

Front Cargo Carrier Flat Bed

@ Ekdog: do you have other options than the Brompton for this?

fietsbob

I add a toe strap, around the bag support frame handle and the steering mast
when I start to overstuff my Touring bag.

More than that & the Trailer takes the Load ..

Ekdog

Not really. I have a couple of mountain bikes that I have to keep in a garage several kms. away because they won't fit in my flat. I have a basket on one of them that works well for doggie hauling, but I don't want to hoof it over there every time Lula and I decide to take a spin.

badmother

I was thinking if you had another smallwheeler. Personally I do not like baskets (at least heavy baskets) on big wheelers, and especially not on handlebars.

I have suggested something earlyer about frontluggage, and found somebody on flickr doing the same: if you look at the klickfix systems it is max 7 kg. If you look at the small frontracks (like some of the ones on the Practical Cycles site I linked to) they are 10 kg max.

If you atatch a basket or crate to the "caddy" klickfix (atatched low on the stem) and make sure the bottom of the basket is resting on top of the rack then you can put much more in the basket than if you use only the clickfix or only the frontrack atatchment. You need to carefully make sure you mount the caddy in the right height so they share the load.

What is NOT good with that system is the weight is following the front wheel, and 12 kg may be a bit much..

Best for this system would bw another smallwheel bike, with V brakes if possible.




Here they show it on a large wheeled bike but the system is the same- only you use the Caddy on the stem instead of that handlebar atatchment.


From a different angel

This is not a type bag that would be good for a 12 kg dog but this way of atatching and carrying the weight of luhhahe is good IMHO.