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Old 12-29-18, 07:37 PM
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I don't think I need nutrients at all with the "Patio Plus" potting soil that I've been using. It's only about $4 something a big bag but seemingly loaded enough with nitrogen and nutes for a grow cycle.

Cause every time I touch nutrients to that soil only once I burn leaves. A moderate dose of "Dollar Tree" Molasses every 6th to 8th watering or so seems fine. Nutes from off a store shelf, not so fine.
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I don't think I need nutrients at all with the "Patio Plus" potting soil that I've been using. It's only about $4 something a big bag but seemingly loaded enough with nitrogen and nutes for a grow cycle.

Cause every time I touch nutrients to that soil only once I burn leaves. A moderate dose of "Dollar Tree" Molasses every 6th to 8th watering or so seems fine. Nutes from off a store shelf, not so fine.
I love the organic stuff in the ground or raised beds, but I doubt it would work in my containers.


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I went out today and finished cutting down my remaining peppers to the main stems for over-wintering. The two Carolina Cross never germinated in time to bear any fruit, but have been growing steadily if not slowly. At least they're both alive if not a bit stunted from the low temperatures.

Ideally, I'd bring them inside during the winter months but I have no direct sun expose locations. I figured they'd have a better change of surviving the cold they they would without any sun.

As for the two watermelon vines which germinated late in the season, how they are even still alive is surprising. Since they're annuals, I figured they'd just turn brown and die. I don't figure they're likely to begin growing again even if they survived through winter.

Anyway, I'm just curious to see what will eventually happen in the end. Finally, my cabbage looks mature but small -- again, due to limited sun. I would have harvested them today, but some of the lower leaves had developed white powdery mildew so I sprayed them, and will wait until next week to harvest.

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I love the organic stuff in the ground or raised beds, but I doubt it would work in my containers.
It works for me in 7 or 10 gal pots but anything bigger would be cost prohibitive. after a grow season it goes in the yard around a new tree or some new shrubs and it seems to do them some good. It's one of the cheaper brands but seems quality from the results....if I just leave the nutrients on the shelf.
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Speaking of flower I planted an entire pack of marigolds and another of sunflowers and only a handful germinated. Of those that did, only two sunflowers has bloomed so far with a third with a bud and a present in perfect condition (for the moment the bugs have vanished). I placed the last sunflower on the table top so it could get as much sun as possible. If and/or when it blooms I'll post.

In additions, the few marigold that survived are only pups but yesterday I notice they still have developed flowers if not the tiniest ones I've ever seen -- about 1/4 thumbnail size. So at least I've learned that a harvest is possible even with limited sun, but only bear fruit and flowers 1/10th to1/25th normal size.
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Here the current state of my garden. Of course I'm as surprised to see the tomatoes as anyone. I thought I discarded them all but apparently I missed some and this is the results. You should note that the temps have been quite cool (63-42), but evidently tomatoes will continue to grow nonetheless.

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i have excellent year-round farmer markets and prefer to support them rather than grow my own vegetables. it's good for me to have plants around though....for food, design or just beauty it's all gardening. Since i have 3 patio spaces here i do like having water tolerant plants and interesting pots.....and since i just zen cleaned through my main bedroom patio...here is my garden on that patio














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Oh come on now, you can do better than that. Not even a Romaine lettuce? If I only had half the space you have I could feed all my neighbors and the homeless. Seriously, your succulents look fantastic.
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This story is a little old, but apparently it's still going on...these kind of stories infuriates me

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/loc...189273944.html

Hermine Ricketts and her husband Tom Carroll may grow fruit trees and flowers in the front yard of their Miami Shores house. They may park a boat or jet ski in their driveway. They may place statues, fountains, gnomes, pink flamingoes or Santa in a Speedo on their property.

Vegetables, however, are not allowed.
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This story is a little old, but apparently it's still going on...these kind of stories infuriates me

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/loc...189273944.html



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That is just wrong. I can understand how a condo or homeowner's association can make those types of rules (though I would never be a supporter of that one myself). However, it should not be legal for cities, townships, counties and such to forbid a garden for personal use, unless there is a specific related problem, like blocking access to a fire hydrant or something.
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Those types of laws are typical in exclusive cities all over Florida. They're designed to keep the undesirables out as everybody knows only "those people" would ever erect vegetables gardens esp. out in the front yard.

Now if the law as in effect when they moved in then that's a different story. I know cities such as Coral Gables -- The City Beautiful (the movement is in the name) has laws restricting pickup truck from being visible from the street and require all its building to be of Mediterranean design. Not sure if the pickup truck law still exists today now that trucks have become $100,000 luxury automobiles?

Remember the popularity of the White House garden during the Obama administration? Now can you imagine Melania out in the garden on her hands and knees with her fingers in the soil? Not in a million years.
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What a load of crapola. At the very least, their garden should be grandfathered in. I smell a lawsuit. Plenty of cities are encouraging community gardens and such...Detroit for example. For my two times shopping for a new house, I made a point to ensure that there was no draconian covenant bs in the prospective neighborhood.
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I think its pretty much the front yard garden that's causing so much of a ruckus. Many of these cities are essentially expanded gated communities that take a lot of care and pride to keep their cities uniform and everybody's front yards well manicured and looking the same.

I can understand these rules to that degree, since no one would want their next-door neighbor erecting a nude statue or some other gaudy contraption in their front yard directly across from them.

The front yard garden here is well kept, but who's to say the next person won't decide to grow corn in their front yard? Yep, I can understand it in an effort to keep all the homes uniform and maintain high property values that folks paid for when they moved in.

I've noticed some folks do tend to take things too far and others even push things to the limit just to see what they can get away with. I think that's what they're afraid of?

Maybe they could put up a fence, wall, or even a hedge so no one could see it from the street? Hopefully, that wouldn't violate the city's code and be satisfactory for all parties concerned.

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If they ever come for me, I'm going to invoke the Florida Friendly Landscape Law. It's a relatively new law, so not sure how much it's been cited. However, I have not fully read the law, but will be soon...So far I've been successful in defending myself from the city attempting to intervene in my landscape.

Note: I never say never and I will NEVER live in a HOA community.

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If they ever come for me, I'm going to invoke the Florida Friendly Landscape Law. It's a relatively new law, so not sure how much it's been cited. However, I have not fully read the law, but will be soon...So far I've been successful in defending myself from the city attempting to intervene in my landscape.

Note: I never say never and I will NEVER live in a HOA community.

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At a quick glance, it looks like the law is aimed at local governments and their actions, not at individuals or even corporations. I don't know that it would allow them to cite you, or offer you any protection. It looks like they just want to require the governments to use plants that don't waste water or are not invasive or harmful to native plants and animals.
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I find that front yard garden to be quite attractive.

Fortunately, I live in a place where you can do pretty much whatever you want on your own land.
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I started doing a little boulevard garden a couple years back - just a raised bed with some tomatoes, herbs, and flowers. Several neighbors copied me and made their own boulevard gardens.

I learned last summer that my tasteful little garden is apparently illegal; you're supposed to get a permit from the city, and not grow things that are edible. This is not an area with an HOA or anything like that - just a pretty normal low to middle income neighborhood with normal older houses, sidewalks, people, a mix of homeowners and renters, and a bit of crime on occasion.

At this point I'm inclined to keep doing my little summer garden, unless I get specifically asked to take it down. At that point, I'll happily share all the landlord code violations that I pass on a daily basis and request that the city deal with those as well.
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^ Ignorance is bliss.

I planted two nice maples on the terrace at my previous house almost ten years ago. Didn’t realize I was required to get a permit from the city. I figured I’m paying taxes on that property, I’ll plant what I like after calling Diggers Hotline. I occasionally drive by the old place. The trees look great.
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^ Ignorance is bliss.

I planted two nice maples on the terrace at my previous house almost ten years ago. Didn’t realize I was required to get a permit from the city. I figured I’m paying taxes on that property, I’ll plant what I like after calling Diggers Hotline. I occasionally drive by the old place. The trees look great.
Well isn't that special? But no, there's a whole list of code, ordinances, laws that trump your private property right. As you put it long as none of your neighbors squeal, chances are you will live happily ever after in maple tree bliss none the worse for wear.


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In other news, did I mention my tomatoes are blooming again? Dang if I can make head or tails of it. Of the two plants that came back alive one is growing like crazy (best of the bunch) and the other blooming all over. What's funny is that its January the coldest month in So Cal!

This makes no sense, but I'm going to roll with the punches. BTW, there other day a bird came and munched on one of the green tomatoes. I was going to put out a container of water but then the forecast if for rain for the next few days. Happy gardening everyone.

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You likely needed to call 811 and have the utilities mark their lines, and if the trees disrupted service, caused a leak, kaboom etc then you'd be at fault.
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Well isn't that special? But no, there's a whole list of code, ordinances, laws that trump your private property right. As you put it long as none of your neighbors squeal, chances are you will live happily ever after in maple tree bliss none the worse for wear.
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You likely needed to call 811 and have the utilities mark their lines, and if the trees disrupted service, caused a leak, kaboom etc then you'd be at fault.
Maybe Diggers Hotline is just a Wisconsin thing. That is who comes and marks gas lines, water, phone, internet, etc. I did have them identify those locations. I don't ever need to splode my house or sever fiber optic junk--$$$. It appears as if the 811 does the same stuff as Diggers Hotline folks.

And like I said, that was my previous house...seven years ago. The trees on terraces are 'city property' even though they don't necessarily pay for them...sometimes they do. Though I paid for the two maples, an Emerald Queen and Autumn Blaze. They added some great color come fall.
I did get a permit to have two large maples removed from my current house's terrace. Some genius decided to plant trees that want to grow 60' tall directly under power lines. Evidently people weren't any smarter in the 60's than they are today. I'll replace them with something that max's out @15-20'.
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No, 811 is the law pretty much everywhere.
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Anybody do any indoor gardening or use grow lights. I was thinking about investing in a grow light to supplement my shaded balcony for a better crop this season. But I'm not sure of what type, or the amount I'd need. Any advice or links would be appreciated.
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