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ibtyen 06-27-17 01:49 PM

Changes to the way threads are marked as read.
 
Hello,

We just changed the way the forum marks threads as read. Previously, it was cookies based and marked everything read after a period of inactivity.

We have switched to a more accurate way to show what you haven't and have read. Because of this, you may see more threads showing as "unread" (because you haven't read them)

Please report in this thread any odd behavior (or if it works better) regarding how threads now mark themselves as read.

This setting needs about 24 hours for it to fully work. Please check how things are working tomorrow. 6/28

Thanks,
Tyson

Siu Blue Wind 06-27-17 04:02 PM

Thank you

SylvainG 06-27-17 05:26 PM

Yes, thank you :)

GeneO 06-27-17 09:20 PM

I liked the old way. Threads I ignored because I wasn't interested eventually got marked unread. Now I have to spend more time sorting through the threads. Would have been nice if you would have done a poll before making such a big change.

SylvainG 06-28-17 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by GeneO (Post 19682037)
I liked the old way. Threads I ignored because I wasn't interested eventually got marked unread. Now I have to spend more time sorting through the threads. Would have been nice if you would have done a poll before making such a big change.

You mean you find it hard double clicking the forum icon to mark all its thread read? This is what would have happened anyway after 10 minutes of inactivity.

GeneO 06-28-17 07:28 AM


Originally Posted by SylvainG (Post 19682404)
You mean you find it hard double clicking the forum icon to mark all its thread read? This is what would have happened anyway after 10 minutes of inactivity.

Yes.

mibike 06-28-17 07:57 AM

This is a big improvement. Thank You!

SylvainG 06-28-17 09:24 AM


Originally Posted by GeneO (Post 19682499)
Yes.

Well compare that inconvenience to this: Writing a message for more than 10 minutes or leaving the keyboard for more than 10 minutes and have all the still unread threads marked as read across all subforums. So now you have to figure out what time it was when that happens, and in each subforum you frequent, scroll down to find the post that was newer than that time and start from there. But that's not all, now when you want to look at new posts in a now shown as read thread that interest you, you have to go to the last page and scroll to see which posts you haven't read (go to first new post won't work here since the thread is show as read), which might be in a previous page so keep going until you find that post. That is very annoying.

GeneO 06-28-17 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by SylvainG (Post 19682404)
You mean you find it hard double clicking the forum icon to mark all its thread read? This is what would have happened anyway after 10 minutes of inactivity.

And you can't do that on the mobile site.

SylvainG 06-28-17 06:38 PM


Originally Posted by GeneO (Post 19683072)
And you can't do that on the mobile site.

Never liked the mobile site, it's missing too many features. I whished when I tell it to use the full desktop view that it keep that way and not constantly return to the mobile view...


Originally Posted by Chuckk (Post 19683427)
Thought it was a bug, but now I read that it's a feature.
Marks inactive threads all the way back to the 17th as "new" so now I get to figure out what I've already seen.
Comment above says there's some button I can hit to mark them all read?

Yeah, two ways, from the subforum menu:

http://i.imgur.com/MmGqf6f.png

or

http://i.imgur.com/InG8giK.png

http://www.bikeforums.net/data:image...AASUVORK5CYII=

jimmuller 06-28-17 07:48 PM

I don't use the mobile site, so whatever it does is moot.

I am subscribed to some threads which I read only every so often. In the old system if I chose to ignore them they would quietly go away. If I wanted to catch up on their contents I could always read them later anyway. Now I have to intentionally mark them as read. The threads I always wanted to read I would always read anyway.

So the new system is a step in the wrong direction.

GeneO 06-28-17 08:21 PM


Originally Posted by jimmuller (Post 19684261)
I don't use the mobile site, so whatever it does is moot.

I am subscribed to some threads which I read only every so often. In the old system if I chose to ignore them they would quietly go away. If I wanted to catch up on their contents I could always read them later anyway. Now I have to intentionally mark them as read. The threads I always wanted to read I would always read anyway.

So the new system is a step in the wrong direction.

moot to you. I use mobile a lot as I am sure others do, which adds to this being a step in the wrong direction. It should be made a per user option, if possible.

SylvainG 06-28-17 09:15 PM


Originally Posted by jimmuller (Post 19684261)
I don't use the mobile site, so whatever it does is moot.

I am subscribed to some threads which I read only every so often. In the old system if I chose to ignore them they would quietly go away. If I wanted to catch up on their contents I could always read them later anyway. Now I have to intentionally mark them as read. The threads I always wanted to read I would always read anyway.

So the new system is a step in the wrong direction.

When viewing the forum, double click the little bicycle icon on the left of the forum. That's all that is needed to mark all threads inside as read.

Don't you prefer being able to jump right away to the first unread message in a thread by just clicking on the little arrow icon before the thread's name? It's so convenient. This was lost when the forum used to mark all threads read by itself.

http://i.imgur.com/CVM1a0C.png

Plus you couldn't tell which forums had new posts in threads without having to figure out when was the last time you were here and compare that to the date of the threads. That was really annoying.
http://www.bikeforums.net/data:image...AASUVORK5CYII=

rccardr 06-29-17 06:49 AM

I liked the old way better.
But then, I'm like that about a lot of stuff...

jimmuller 06-29-17 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by SylvainG (Post 19684425)
When viewing the forum, double click the little bicycle icon on the left of the forum. That's all that is needed to mark all threads inside as read.

This has two problems. The minor issue is that it requires clicking into the top level Forums page which I don't do very often. The big problem is that it would seem to mark the entire forum as read. That means all its threads. I would never do that without first looking to see which threads contained something interesting. The C&V form has many threads I am subscribed to and many more which I don't. Most of those I am subscribed to I do not want to mark as read, so some I am happy to let move on.

So the bicycle icon is pointless. Ha, until you mentioned it I never had a reason to hover over it to see what it did. (I know! Let's create a button somewhere, not mark what it does, and let people discover it by themselves. :foo:)

SylvainG 06-29-17 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by jimmuller (Post 19684981)
This has two problems. The minor issue is that it requires clicking into the top level Forums page which I don't do very often. The big problem is that it would seem to mark the entire forum as read. That means all its threads. I would never do that without first looking to see which threads contained something interesting. The C&V form has many threads I am subscribed to and many more which I don't. Most of those I am subscribed to I do not want to mark as read, so some I am happy to let move on.

So the bicycle icon is pointless. Ha, until you mentioned it I never had a reason to hover over it to see what it did. (I know! Let's create a button somewhere, not mark what it does, and let people discover it by themselves. :foo:)

I'm confused, this is what the forum used to do, mark all threads as read after a period of inactivity. Now it doesn't. Only threads that has new posts since your last visit them will show in bold, and that's as long as you don't read them. Once the threads you are interested in them are read, mark the whole forum as read (you can use the forum tool "Mark this forum read" if you don't want to return to the forum view). That's what I do.

Jean_TX 06-29-17 03:31 PM


Originally Posted by GeneO (Post 19682037)
I liked the old way. Threads I ignored because I wasn't interested eventually got marked unread. Now I have to spend more time sorting through the threads. Would have been nice if you would have done a poll before making such a big change.

Ditto!!! I cannot find a way to mark all the threads as read so I don't have to keep track of when I last visited. Almost makes it impossible to efficiently go through "new posts" as well as my favorite forums.

ibtyen 06-29-17 03:35 PM

2 Attachment(s)
To mark all threads as read, click on "Forum Tools" and select "mark this forum read"

Attachment 569759

To mark all forums read, click on "mark forums read" under quicklinks

Attachment 569760


Originally Posted by Jean_TX (Post 19685965)
Ditto!!! I cannot find a way to mark all the threads as read so I don't have to keep track of when I last visited. Almost makes it impossible to efficiently go through "new posts" as well as my favorite forums.


Trsnrtr 06-29-17 03:36 PM

If we're voting, I prefer the old way, too.

Jean_TX 06-29-17 04:02 PM


Originally Posted by ibtyen (Post 19685971)
To mark all threads as read, click on "Forum Tools" and select "mark this forum read"

Attachment 569759

To mark all forums read, click on "mark forums read" under quicklinks

Attachment 569760

There are 3 forums that particularly interest me (general, mechanics, and road) and I visit them daily - so that is 3 clicks to mark threads read. But my interests vary (mountain biking, gravel, c&v, touring, etc) and I also request to see all new posts to check if there are any related threads that might interest me...so you expect me to go to each existing forum and click to mark all its threads as read?

SylvainG 06-29-17 07:49 PM

I really don't get it guys. With the old way, when you leave the forum (or took too long to write a post), new posts that you did NOT read would AUTOMATICALLY be marked as READ without your doing! This means would MISS new posts unless you REMEMBERED when you LAST visited and MANUALLY looked through the read posts and find posts newer than that date! Then you would have to manually find that first new post in that thread. You find that convenient?!?

Now, it is IMPOSSIBLE to miss new posts unless you intentionally mark a forum as read! It's as simple as that! Remember, you only need to click on the down arrow before the thread's name to automatically jump to the first unread post in a thread. How can it be more simpler?!?

jimmuller 06-29-17 08:42 PM

SG, are you by chance a system administrator?

SylvainG 06-29-17 09:08 PM


Originally Posted by jimmuller (Post 19686532)
SG, are you by chance a system administrator?

Used to be. Why?

2cam16 06-29-17 09:12 PM

Old way here. I'm lost everyday now. Before I had everything to a T.

Hardrock23 06-30-17 12:00 AM

I didn't notice the change until someone said something about it...But I just keep a window open for C&V and for General (maybe one other sometimes) and I just open a new tab with the thread I want to read (by what page I want), then close it, go to the next, and so on. Ill reload the main pages a few times a day to see any new threads posted.

More simple to me, even if I do happen to miss threads here and there. Though, I can always go to the next page and skim through to check...and I use a desktop.

My vote - Well I suppose I don't use enough of the features to vote lol


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