Go Back  Bike Forums > News & Suggestions > Forum Suggestions & User Assistance
Reload this Page >

Changes to the way threads are marked as read.

Forum Suggestions & User Assistance Have a suggestion for the forums? Need help with the Forums? Post here.

Changes to the way threads are marked as read.

Old 06-27-17, 01:49 PM
  #1  
ibtyen
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 212
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 70 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Changes to the way threads are marked as read.

Hello,

We just changed the way the forum marks threads as read. Previously, it was cookies based and marked everything read after a period of inactivity.

We have switched to a more accurate way to show what you haven't and have read. Because of this, you may see more threads showing as "unread" (because you haven't read them)

Please report in this thread any odd behavior (or if it works better) regarding how threads now mark themselves as read.

This setting needs about 24 hours for it to fully work. Please check how things are working tomorrow. 6/28

Thanks,
Tyson
ibtyen is offline  
Old 06-27-17, 04:02 PM
  #2  
Siu Blue Wind
BACK2ME
 
Siu Blue Wind's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Posts: 12,922
Mentioned: 40 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1586 Post(s)
Liked 53 Times in 38 Posts
Thank you
__________________
Originally Posted by making View Post
Please dont outsmart the censor. That is a very expensive censor and every time one of you guys outsmart it it makes someone at the home office feel bad. We dont wanna do that. So dont cleverly disguise bad words.
Siu Blue Wind is offline  
Old 06-27-17, 05:26 PM
  #3  
SylvainG
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Ottawa,ON,Canada
Posts: 1,255

Bikes: Schwinn Miranda 1990, Giant TCX 2 2012

Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 480 Post(s)
Liked 5 Times in 4 Posts
Yes, thank you
SylvainG is offline  
Old 06-27-17, 09:20 PM
  #4  
GeneO 
Cyclopath
 
GeneO's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 2,137

Bikes: 2018 Roubaix Expert Di2, 2016 Diverge Expert X1, Felt 2012 F55X

Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 378 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
I liked the old way. Threads I ignored because I wasn't interested eventually got marked unread. Now I have to spend more time sorting through the threads. Would have been nice if you would have done a poll before making such a big change.
__________________
Manbearpig & Redtail
GeneO is offline  
Old 06-28-17, 06:26 AM
  #5  
SylvainG
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Ottawa,ON,Canada
Posts: 1,255

Bikes: Schwinn Miranda 1990, Giant TCX 2 2012

Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 480 Post(s)
Liked 5 Times in 4 Posts
Originally Posted by GeneO View Post
I liked the old way. Threads I ignored because I wasn't interested eventually got marked unread. Now I have to spend more time sorting through the threads. Would have been nice if you would have done a poll before making such a big change.
You mean you find it hard double clicking the forum icon to mark all its thread read? This is what would have happened anyway after 10 minutes of inactivity.
SylvainG is offline  
Old 06-28-17, 07:28 AM
  #6  
GeneO 
Cyclopath
 
GeneO's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 2,137

Bikes: 2018 Roubaix Expert Di2, 2016 Diverge Expert X1, Felt 2012 F55X

Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 378 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by SylvainG View Post
You mean you find it hard double clicking the forum icon to mark all its thread read? This is what would have happened anyway after 10 minutes of inactivity.
Yes.
__________________
Manbearpig & Redtail
GeneO is offline  
Old 06-28-17, 07:57 AM
  #7  
mibike
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 190
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 30 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
This is a big improvement. Thank You!
mibike is offline  
Old 06-28-17, 09:24 AM
  #8  
SylvainG
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Ottawa,ON,Canada
Posts: 1,255

Bikes: Schwinn Miranda 1990, Giant TCX 2 2012

Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 480 Post(s)
Liked 5 Times in 4 Posts
Originally Posted by GeneO View Post
Yes.
Well compare that inconvenience to this: Writing a message for more than 10 minutes or leaving the keyboard for more than 10 minutes and have all the still unread threads marked as read across all subforums. So now you have to figure out what time it was when that happens, and in each subforum you frequent, scroll down to find the post that was newer than that time and start from there. But that's not all, now when you want to look at new posts in a now shown as read thread that interest you, you have to go to the last page and scroll to see which posts you haven't read (go to first new post won't work here since the thread is show as read), which might be in a previous page so keep going until you find that post. That is very annoying.
SylvainG is offline  
Old 06-28-17, 11:19 AM
  #9  
GeneO 
Cyclopath
 
GeneO's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 2,137

Bikes: 2018 Roubaix Expert Di2, 2016 Diverge Expert X1, Felt 2012 F55X

Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 378 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by SylvainG View Post
You mean you find it hard double clicking the forum icon to mark all its thread read? This is what would have happened anyway after 10 minutes of inactivity.
And you can't do that on the mobile site.
GeneO is offline  
Old 06-28-17, 06:38 PM
  #10  
SylvainG
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Ottawa,ON,Canada
Posts: 1,255

Bikes: Schwinn Miranda 1990, Giant TCX 2 2012

Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 480 Post(s)
Liked 5 Times in 4 Posts
Originally Posted by GeneO View Post
And you can't do that on the mobile site.
Never liked the mobile site, it's missing too many features. I whished when I tell it to use the full desktop view that it keep that way and not constantly return to the mobile view...

Originally Posted by Chuckk View Post
Thought it was a bug, but now I read that it's a feature.
Marks inactive threads all the way back to the 17th as "new" so now I get to figure out what I've already seen.
Comment above says there's some button I can hit to mark them all read?
Yeah, two ways, from the subforum menu:



or




Last edited by SylvainG; 06-28-17 at 09:05 PM. Reason: Wrong image for doubleclick
SylvainG is offline  
Old 06-28-17, 07:48 PM
  #11  
jimmuller 
What??? Only 2 wheels?
 
jimmuller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Boston-ish, MA
Posts: 13,062

Bikes: 73 Raleigh Carlton Gran Sport, 72 Peugeot UO-8, 82 Peugeot TH8, 87 Bianchi Brava, 76? Masi Grand Criterium, 87 Centurion Ironman Expert, 74 Motobecane Champion Team, 86 & 77 Gazelle champion mondial, 81? Grandis, 82? Tommasini, 83 Peugeot PFN10

Mentioned: 169 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1046 Post(s)
Liked 12 Times in 10 Posts
I don't use the mobile site, so whatever it does is moot.

I am subscribed to some threads which I read only every so often. In the old system if I chose to ignore them they would quietly go away. If I wanted to catch up on their contents I could always read them later anyway. Now I have to intentionally mark them as read. The threads I always wanted to read I would always read anyway.

So the new system is a step in the wrong direction.
__________________
Real cyclists use toe clips.
With great bikes comes great responsibility.
jimmuller
jimmuller is offline  
Old 06-28-17, 08:21 PM
  #12  
GeneO 
Cyclopath
 
GeneO's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 2,137

Bikes: 2018 Roubaix Expert Di2, 2016 Diverge Expert X1, Felt 2012 F55X

Mentioned: 12 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 378 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 1 Time in 1 Post
Originally Posted by jimmuller View Post
I don't use the mobile site, so whatever it does is moot.

I am subscribed to some threads which I read only every so often. In the old system if I chose to ignore them they would quietly go away. If I wanted to catch up on their contents I could always read them later anyway. Now I have to intentionally mark them as read. The threads I always wanted to read I would always read anyway.

So the new system is a step in the wrong direction.
moot to you. I use mobile a lot as I am sure others do, which adds to this being a step in the wrong direction. It should be made a per user option, if possible.
__________________
Manbearpig & Redtail
GeneO is offline  
Old 06-28-17, 09:15 PM
  #13  
SylvainG
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Ottawa,ON,Canada
Posts: 1,255

Bikes: Schwinn Miranda 1990, Giant TCX 2 2012

Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 480 Post(s)
Liked 5 Times in 4 Posts
Originally Posted by jimmuller View Post
I don't use the mobile site, so whatever it does is moot.

I am subscribed to some threads which I read only every so often. In the old system if I chose to ignore them they would quietly go away. If I wanted to catch up on their contents I could always read them later anyway. Now I have to intentionally mark them as read. The threads I always wanted to read I would always read anyway.

So the new system is a step in the wrong direction.
When viewing the forum, double click the little bicycle icon on the left of the forum. That's all that is needed to mark all threads inside as read.

Don't you prefer being able to jump right away to the first unread message in a thread by just clicking on the little arrow icon before the thread's name? It's so convenient. This was lost when the forum used to mark all threads read by itself.



Plus you couldn't tell which forums had new posts in threads without having to figure out when was the last time you were here and compare that to the date of the threads. That was really annoying.
SylvainG is offline  
Old 06-29-17, 06:49 AM
  #14  
rccardr 
aka: Dr. Cannondale
 
rccardr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 5,302

Bikes: I'd rather not count how many, thank you

Mentioned: 146 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1007 Post(s)
Liked 16 Times in 11 Posts
I liked the old way better.
But then, I'm like that about a lot of stuff...
__________________
Hard at work in the Secret Underground Laboratory...
rccardr is offline  
Old 06-29-17, 07:59 AM
  #15  
jimmuller 
What??? Only 2 wheels?
 
jimmuller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Boston-ish, MA
Posts: 13,062

Bikes: 73 Raleigh Carlton Gran Sport, 72 Peugeot UO-8, 82 Peugeot TH8, 87 Bianchi Brava, 76? Masi Grand Criterium, 87 Centurion Ironman Expert, 74 Motobecane Champion Team, 86 & 77 Gazelle champion mondial, 81? Grandis, 82? Tommasini, 83 Peugeot PFN10

Mentioned: 169 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1046 Post(s)
Liked 12 Times in 10 Posts
Originally Posted by SylvainG View Post
When viewing the forum, double click the little bicycle icon on the left of the forum. That's all that is needed to mark all threads inside as read.
This has two problems. The minor issue is that it requires clicking into the top level Forums page which I don't do very often. The big problem is that it would seem to mark the entire forum as read. That means all its threads. I would never do that without first looking to see which threads contained something interesting. The C&V form has many threads I am subscribed to and many more which I don't. Most of those I am subscribed to I do not want to mark as read, so some I am happy to let move on.

So the bicycle icon is pointless. Ha, until you mentioned it I never had a reason to hover over it to see what it did. (I know! Let's create a button somewhere, not mark what it does, and let people discover it by themselves. )
__________________
Real cyclists use toe clips.
With great bikes comes great responsibility.
jimmuller
jimmuller is offline  
Old 06-29-17, 08:58 AM
  #16  
SylvainG
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Ottawa,ON,Canada
Posts: 1,255

Bikes: Schwinn Miranda 1990, Giant TCX 2 2012

Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 480 Post(s)
Liked 5 Times in 4 Posts
Originally Posted by jimmuller View Post
This has two problems. The minor issue is that it requires clicking into the top level Forums page which I don't do very often. The big problem is that it would seem to mark the entire forum as read. That means all its threads. I would never do that without first looking to see which threads contained something interesting. The C&V form has many threads I am subscribed to and many more which I don't. Most of those I am subscribed to I do not want to mark as read, so some I am happy to let move on.

So the bicycle icon is pointless. Ha, until you mentioned it I never had a reason to hover over it to see what it did. (I know! Let's create a button somewhere, not mark what it does, and let people discover it by themselves. )
I'm confused, this is what the forum used to do, mark all threads as read after a period of inactivity. Now it doesn't. Only threads that has new posts since your last visit them will show in bold, and that's as long as you don't read them. Once the threads you are interested in them are read, mark the whole forum as read (you can use the forum tool "Mark this forum read" if you don't want to return to the forum view). That's what I do.
SylvainG is offline  
Old 06-29-17, 03:31 PM
  #17  
Jean_TX
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 103
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 34 Post(s)
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by GeneO View Post
I liked the old way. Threads I ignored because I wasn't interested eventually got marked unread. Now I have to spend more time sorting through the threads. Would have been nice if you would have done a poll before making such a big change.
Ditto!!! I cannot find a way to mark all the threads as read so I don't have to keep track of when I last visited. Almost makes it impossible to efficiently go through "new posts" as well as my favorite forums.
Jean_TX is offline  
Old 06-29-17, 03:35 PM
  #18  
ibtyen
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Posts: 212
Mentioned: 3 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 70 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
To mark all threads as read, click on "Forum Tools" and select "mark this forum read"

markasreadbf.jpg

To mark all forums read, click on "mark forums read" under quicklinks

BF allforumsread.jpg

Originally Posted by Jean_TX View Post
Ditto!!! I cannot find a way to mark all the threads as read so I don't have to keep track of when I last visited. Almost makes it impossible to efficiently go through "new posts" as well as my favorite forums.
ibtyen is offline  
Old 06-29-17, 03:36 PM
  #19  
Trsnrtr
Super Moderator
 
Trsnrtr's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Central Illinois
Posts: 16,759

Bikes: Giant Propel, Gianni Motta, Co-Motion Supremo, ICE VTX

Mentioned: 92 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 6182 Post(s)
Liked 50 Times in 36 Posts
If we're voting, I prefer the old way, too.
__________________
Dennis T

Trsnrtr is online now  
Old 06-29-17, 04:02 PM
  #20  
Jean_TX
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 103
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 34 Post(s)
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Originally Posted by ibtyen View Post
To mark all threads as read, click on "Forum Tools" and select "mark this forum read"

Attachment 569759

To mark all forums read, click on "mark forums read" under quicklinks

Attachment 569760
There are 3 forums that particularly interest me (general, mechanics, and road) and I visit them daily - so that is 3 clicks to mark threads read. But my interests vary (mountain biking, gravel, c&v, touring, etc) and I also request to see all new posts to check if there are any related threads that might interest me...so you expect me to go to each existing forum and click to mark all its threads as read?
Jean_TX is offline  
Old 06-29-17, 07:49 PM
  #21  
SylvainG
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Ottawa,ON,Canada
Posts: 1,255

Bikes: Schwinn Miranda 1990, Giant TCX 2 2012

Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 480 Post(s)
Liked 5 Times in 4 Posts
I really don't get it guys. With the old way, when you leave the forum (or took too long to write a post), new posts that you did NOT read would AUTOMATICALLY be marked as READ without your doing! This means would MISS new posts unless you REMEMBERED when you LAST visited and MANUALLY looked through the read posts and find posts newer than that date! Then you would have to manually find that first new post in that thread. You find that convenient?!?

Now, it is IMPOSSIBLE to miss new posts unless you intentionally mark a forum as read! It's as simple as that! Remember, you only need to click on the down arrow before the thread's name to automatically jump to the first unread post in a thread. How can it be more simpler?!?
SylvainG is offline  
Old 06-29-17, 08:42 PM
  #22  
jimmuller 
What??? Only 2 wheels?
 
jimmuller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Boston-ish, MA
Posts: 13,062

Bikes: 73 Raleigh Carlton Gran Sport, 72 Peugeot UO-8, 82 Peugeot TH8, 87 Bianchi Brava, 76? Masi Grand Criterium, 87 Centurion Ironman Expert, 74 Motobecane Champion Team, 86 & 77 Gazelle champion mondial, 81? Grandis, 82? Tommasini, 83 Peugeot PFN10

Mentioned: 169 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1046 Post(s)
Liked 12 Times in 10 Posts
SG, are you by chance a system administrator?
__________________
Real cyclists use toe clips.
With great bikes comes great responsibility.
jimmuller
jimmuller is offline  
Old 06-29-17, 09:08 PM
  #23  
SylvainG
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: Ottawa,ON,Canada
Posts: 1,255

Bikes: Schwinn Miranda 1990, Giant TCX 2 2012

Mentioned: 14 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 480 Post(s)
Liked 5 Times in 4 Posts
Originally Posted by jimmuller View Post
SG, are you by chance a system administrator?
Used to be. Why?
SylvainG is offline  
Old 06-29-17, 09:12 PM
  #24  
2cam16
Senior Member
 
2cam16's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: San Mateo,Ca.
Posts: 2,591

Bikes: TOO MANY

Mentioned: 35 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 589 Post(s)
Liked 28 Times in 25 Posts
Old way here. I'm lost everyday now. Before I had everything to a T.
2cam16 is offline  
Old 06-30-17, 12:00 AM
  #25  
Hardrock23
 
Hardrock23's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2015
Location: NoVA - DC Metro
Posts: 1,228

Bikes: 1987 Schwinn Prelude -- 1995 Specialized Hardrock Sport GX

Mentioned: 10 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 296 Post(s)
Likes: 0
Liked 0 Times in 0 Posts
I didn't notice the change until someone said something about it...But I just keep a window open for C&V and for General (maybe one other sometimes) and I just open a new tab with the thread I want to read (by what page I want), then close it, go to the next, and so on. Ill reload the main pages a few times a day to see any new threads posted.

More simple to me, even if I do happen to miss threads here and there. Though, I can always go to the next page and skim through to check...and I use a desktop.

My vote - Well I suppose I don't use enough of the features to vote lol
Hardrock23 is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service

Copyright 2018 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.