somebody build a frame, willya? This place is getting silly
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Starting one in a month. Will finally be able to add content here.
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I'm not one for fawning over bicycles, but I do believe that our bikes communicate with us, and what this bike is saying is, "You're an idiot." BikeSnobNYC
I'm not one for fawning over bicycles, but I do believe that our bikes communicate with us, and what this bike is saying is, "You're an idiot." BikeSnobNYC
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Randomhead
Joined: Aug 2008
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From: Happy Valley, Pennsylvania
thanks, what are the standoffs on top of the crown for? Rack mount?
I want to build a cargo bike, but I don't have any place to store it. The green bike looks really nice. I'm building a retro randonneuring bike, but I'm going to fillet it.
I want to build a cargo bike, but I don't have any place to store it. The green bike looks really nice. I'm building a retro randonneuring bike, but I'm going to fillet it.
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Bikes: GUNNAR CrossHairs / Riv RoadUno / TrekBike 950
i'm not a framebuilder, but i pretend to be one when i wear my True Temper shirt under my Lincoln Electric Red Line welding jacket.
I did finish building up this bike - which many of you were very helpful in offering advice when I was brazing on the rack bosses, bottle bosses, and DT shifter bosses.
So far it passed Test #1 : braze-ons did not fall off when I attached racks, cable stops
and Test #2 : braze-ons did not fall off when I biked to work with the bags lightly loaded
Now - wrestling with how to ask my wife to let me go to Doug Fattic's bike build class....
I did finish building up this bike - which many of you were very helpful in offering advice when I was brazing on the rack bosses, bottle bosses, and DT shifter bosses.
So far it passed Test #1 : braze-ons did not fall off when I attached racks, cable stops
and Test #2 : braze-ons did not fall off when I biked to work with the bags lightly loaded
Now - wrestling with how to ask my wife to let me go to Doug Fattic's bike build class....
#13
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Joined: Aug 2012
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From: Seattle
Ok, I'm building my first lugged frameset with silver filler (Thanks CycleDesign!).
Started with Pacenti lugs (IIRC) and BB shell and cut them up a bit to make them a bit more dramatic and personal. Not much, just a bit ... I'm using oversized tubes but with 6-4-6 and 7-5-7 walls.
A couple interesting details:
Since I like wishbone stays and I recently purchased a lathe, I turned down a .058" walled tube to slip fit over .75" tube for the wishbone and cut matching lug from the sleeve. Basically a Bi-Laminate wishbone. I turned it down because I think the .058" looks too heavy as a lug thickness. You can see in the first pic where the turning stopped. I'll pin these pieces together for the final assembly and brazing as I'm worried that it might move. I'll silver braze the sleeve around the tube and then use Fillet Pro to attach to back of seat cluster. I'm still working on the sequence to complete this part so I get good penetration as well as solid bond between the seatstay and the sleeve. Any advice is welcome!
I have a set of NOS center pull Gran Compe brakes that are super sleek and light with cartridge bearing pivots from the early 80's (guessing). I'm turning custom posts on my lathe so I can get rid of the mounting bracket and braze the mounts direct to the SS/Fork blades. I think this will look awesome - really compact and very nicely finished.
Other than that, typical low trail, relatively 32mm tire road bike.





Tons of pics of all my work is on Flickr. Just got frames #1 & #2 back from painter so, those pics are there too. Stop in and take a look around!
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54319503@N05/
Thanks
Started with Pacenti lugs (IIRC) and BB shell and cut them up a bit to make them a bit more dramatic and personal. Not much, just a bit ... I'm using oversized tubes but with 6-4-6 and 7-5-7 walls.
A couple interesting details:
Since I like wishbone stays and I recently purchased a lathe, I turned down a .058" walled tube to slip fit over .75" tube for the wishbone and cut matching lug from the sleeve. Basically a Bi-Laminate wishbone. I turned it down because I think the .058" looks too heavy as a lug thickness. You can see in the first pic where the turning stopped. I'll pin these pieces together for the final assembly and brazing as I'm worried that it might move. I'll silver braze the sleeve around the tube and then use Fillet Pro to attach to back of seat cluster. I'm still working on the sequence to complete this part so I get good penetration as well as solid bond between the seatstay and the sleeve. Any advice is welcome!
I have a set of NOS center pull Gran Compe brakes that are super sleek and light with cartridge bearing pivots from the early 80's (guessing). I'm turning custom posts on my lathe so I can get rid of the mounting bracket and braze the mounts direct to the SS/Fork blades. I think this will look awesome - really compact and very nicely finished.
Other than that, typical low trail, relatively 32mm tire road bike.
Tons of pics of all my work is on Flickr. Just got frames #1 & #2 back from painter so, those pics are there too. Stop in and take a look around!
https://www.flickr.com/photos/54319503@N05/
Thanks
#14
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Randomhead
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From: Happy Valley, Pennsylvania
Looks nice, thanks for posting. I'm using that same crown, but I'm hacking it up to taste. I'm not a big fan of the stock form, but then I found a website with dual plate crowns, and it reminded me of the crowns that Hetchins used. Of course, they were ridiculously over-elaborate, but the basic form was really nice
I was planning on using some Pacenti lugs I had, but I forgot they were oversize. Thought about doing bilaminate, but decided not to do that out of expediency
I was planning on using some Pacenti lugs I had, but I forgot they were oversize. Thought about doing bilaminate, but decided not to do that out of expediency
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Those crowns look great when they're Weigle-ized!
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#17
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From: Seattle
I attached chainstays yesterday.
Yes, I cut the crown up as well. I'm not sure I'm happy with how it turned out. Let's say my artistic side is under developed. Each lug has some adjustments and embellishments and generally I'm pretty happy with them but the crown just isn't what I was hoping for - no fault of the crown at all!
The Pacenti lugs (if that's what they are...?) were great starting points as they have lots of material to play with.
My next frame will be use bilaminate on all joints so, figured i'd get started here.
Just waiting on a tubing bender I ordered so I can shape the chainstays for the wishbone and then finish turning the brake mount studs and then braze ons.
Oh and Live Wire, I don't think I've seen anything that has been Weigle-ized that didn't look great. He's certainly an inspiration and his work something to hold out there to aspire to.
thanks again
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From: Rochester, NY
Bikes: Stewart S&S coupled sport tourer, Stewart Sunday light, Stewart Commuting, Stewart Touring, Co Motion Tandem, Stewart 3-Spd, Stewart Track, Fuji Finest, Mongoose Tomac ATB, GT Bravado ATB, JCP Folder, Stewart 650B ATB
#19
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From: Seattle
Here's an update:
I was able to bend the SS's to form the wishbone. It took a couple tries and a couple wasted stays but finally got a nice bend with no kinks or flattening (or very little anyway).
This is the second wishbone stay I've done and I'm pretty sure there's a better process to ensure it all ends up aligned and symmetrical but I just go at it the best I can and pray a little bit.
You can see in the second picture the mounting plate for the centerpull brakes as I make sure my new posts will be positioned relatively squarely upon the SS's. *If* I get this to work, I think it will look very sleek and clean.





I was able to bend the SS's to form the wishbone. It took a couple tries and a couple wasted stays but finally got a nice bend with no kinks or flattening (or very little anyway).
This is the second wishbone stay I've done and I'm pretty sure there's a better process to ensure it all ends up aligned and symmetrical but I just go at it the best I can and pray a little bit.
You can see in the second picture the mounting plate for the centerpull brakes as I make sure my new posts will be positioned relatively squarely upon the SS's. *If* I get this to work, I think it will look very sleek and clean.
#20
I'm in the final stages of my Monster Commuter Mk.II. I just need to finish a front and rear rack and it's going to be ready for paint. Fat tubes, fat tires, 48 spoke tandem wheels, that sort of thing. Just a combination of stuff on hand and a loose theme of bigness.
-Ryan

-Ryan
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Bikes: 07 IRO BFGB fixed-gear, 07 Pedal Force RS
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