Years ago I recall seeing a Ritchey rear dropout that had an extra strength design to it and was referred to as such on the frame parts website. Anyone familiar with these dropouts? I can't find them anyplace on the interwebs. There may be other more recent equivalents available too which do the same job. I thought these would be good to have on a frame in the future.

Can you relay what aspect seemed to be "extra strength"? If it's about the amount of material beyond the axle slot or running down to the hanger then simple viewing might give you a good idea as to current drop outs' strengths WRT the old Ritchey's. I suppose it could be that they were slightly thicker then average, but would be surprised if this was it. Perhaps the drop outs were cold fordged, although after going through the thermal treatment, that we usually call brazing, I question what strength advantage would survive building the frame.

Generally a drop out is chosen for the slot type, the joining to the stays design, the hanger length and shape, the angle between the chain and seat tabs/plugs/sockets, eyelets. Strength isn't even on my list. Andy

Ness; CEEWAY... that's them! I couldn't find those with any search engine. Thanks a bunch

Thanks for the input Andy. For whatever reason Ritchey (or Ceeway) refers to these things (pictured/circled) as extra strong. I think I'll write ceeway and ask. It would be nice if they had double eyelets on them. I remember seeing these pop up years ago in a search and the info stuck in mind.

Just braze another eyelet on them. That's what we did to get double-eyelet Campagnolo dropouts at Trek.

Nova Cycle Supply has eyelets you can use for this:


https://www.cycle-frames.com/bicycle...T-12MM-OD.html

I have a pair of those drop outs in my stash. They are beefy, very beefy. If you want them, I will send to you.

Ti-Hab, that's a mighty fine offer of you! Let me know more about these dropouts.

Hey, that's good thinking JT. I hadn't seen those little eyelets before (just the barrel type). You know, it would be fun to choose a frame that has potential and that requires a repaint, then braze the heck out of it with a tonne of attachment points, clean up those joints then paint 'er up. Who says you can't have 4 water bottle braze-ons on a bike.

BTW, I just noticed this thread on a snapped dropout; Snap there goes the old Trek

I presume that without abuse those Ritchey's should not suffer the same fate. I've snapped a dropout before on the first bike that I had when I got back into biking, a GT Timberline.