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Old 04-02-08, 09:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Nessism
Normal framebuilding process is to slot the chain stay for the dropout to slide into. It's normal for some clearance to be present around the fit of these two parts but the weld should have closed up that hole. My guess is that the frame will be fine, but I'd ask the manufacturer about it anyway.
With 45 years of welding experience I tend to agree that, although it is a sloppy weld, it will present no problems with strength. I might be tempted to fill the hole on the top with something to prevent the ingress of water . . . which 'could' lead to problems with internal rust.
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Yeah, I think some epoxy over the hole will do the trick. Thanks guys!
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You'll will probably be fine riding it as is, but since they have offered why not just swap it out?

Interesting thing is that the rear "fork end" should have a been pushed up tight into the slot. There shouldn't be that extra gap at the end. Makes me wonder if one side is pushed in all the way in and this one isn't?

That is just the difference between handmade and factory made bikes. You just can't compare the attention to detail of a one man shop vs. a production environment with hourly workers. I'm not bashing factory made, just pointing out the differences. I believe there are customers and needs for both.

You could probably have ridden this for miles and miles and never noticed. Now that you know it is there, it will probably bug you.
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you could also get a Magnaflux Spotcheck dye pen kit and check for cracks around the weld yourself if you wanna do that, just gotta get rid of the paint
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Originally Posted by dy123
Interesting thing is that the rear "fork end" should have a been pushed up tight into the slot. There shouldn't be that extra gap at the end. Makes me wonder if one side is pushed in all the way in and this one isn't?
Not necessarily. There usually is some 'slop' in the fit so that when the frame is placed in a welding fixture the dropouts can be shifted around some for proper alignment, then welded.

The small gap also allows for deeper penatration when welded and would normally be entirely filled with weld metal, therefore not visible.

Magnafluxing is not necessary. The problem is cosmetic!
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Yes I agree...there can be some slop.

There is no reason for slop like this except speeding up production. It should be fit up correctly. If there is slop it should be side to side to allow the fork ends to be set up square and parallel in the jig. There shouldn't really be any gap at the end of the slot. Is this a fast way to correct for uneven chainstay length cutting?

I'm not saying it isn't done all day long all the time or that it would be a major issue, but it is not the way it is done on a custom level.
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You could use it as a secret bomb now since you can sneak in explosives through that hole
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Shoddy craftsmanship. That sharp corner is a stress riser in a high-stress location of the frame. Take Swobo up on their offer and get a replacement.
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