What is the best Co2 Setup
07-29-15 | 10:36 PM
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I've used a couple, and the one that I like best is the Lexyne. They make a few models, but this is the one I'm using: Lezyne - Engineered Design - Products - CO2 Systems - CO2 Inflators - Trigger Drive CO2
07-30-15 | 02:50 PM
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I've used a couple, and the one that I like best is the Lexyne. They make a few models, but this is the one I'm using: Lezyne - Engineered Design - Products - CO2 Systems - CO2 Inflators - Trigger Drive CO2
07-30-15 | 02:51 PM
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07-30-15 | 03:15 PM
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It is my understanding that once you puncture a cartridge it is done for. Thus the reason I still carry a pump. At $3.00 a cartridge that is a pricy blow up your tire job.
07-30-15 | 03:43 PM
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This...
https://www.amazon.com/Portland-Desig...ywords=pdw+co2
and this...
https://www.amazon.com/Mosa-Gram-Thre...=co2+cartridge
And you should be good for a few years. If $1 is too much than you've picked the wrong hobby.
07-30-15 | 03:46 PM
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You're overpaying if you spend $3 on a cartridge.
This...
https://www.amazon.com/Portland-Desig...ywords=pdw+co2
and this...
Amazon.com: Mosa 16 Gram Threaded Co2 Cartridges (Pack of 30): Industrial & Scientific
And you should be good for a few years. If $1 is too much than you've picked the wrong hobby.
This...
https://www.amazon.com/Portland-Desig...ywords=pdw+co2
and this...
Amazon.com: Mosa 16 Gram Threaded Co2 Cartridges (Pack of 30): Industrial & Scientific
And you should be good for a few years. If $1 is too much than you've picked the wrong hobby.
Also the Genuine Innovations Ultraflate gun protects your hands from frostbite and does the job nicely.
07-30-15 | 04:07 PM
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You're overpaying if you spend $3 on a cartridge.
This...
Amazon.com : Portland Design Works Shiny Object CO2 Inflator with 16G Cartridge : Sports & Outdoors
and this...
https://www.amazon.com/Mosa-Gram-Thre...=co2+cartridge
And you should be good for a few years. If $1 is too much than you've picked the wrong hobby.
This...
Amazon.com : Portland Design Works Shiny Object CO2 Inflator with 16G Cartridge : Sports & Outdoors
and this...
https://www.amazon.com/Mosa-Gram-Thre...=co2+cartridge
And you should be good for a few years. If $1 is too much than you've picked the wrong hobby.
I honestly hane never used a CO2 pumper upper, never owned one, like I siad the $3.00 Cartridges were the deturant. Plus once you blow tehm there is no pertial useage. I have a frame pump.
07-30-15 | 04:07 PM
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These cartridges.....co2 cartridges - Walmart.com used in this pump/CO2 combo.....https://www.nashbar.com/bikes/Product_10053_10052_172872_-1__ gets my 23mm tires up to 125psi every time. I used to have a trigger lock CO2 dispenser. Could use a bit, lock the lever, come back within a couple of hours to finish the cartridge off.
07-30-15 | 04:12 PM
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Some people like them, some people don't.
07-30-15 | 05:48 PM
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07-30-15 | 06:10 PM
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07-30-15 | 08:52 PM
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Personally, I'd rather travel light and not carry a big pump. I'd also rather be on the road, riding again in 5 minutes, than spending 10 minutes trying to pump a tire up to 100psi with a mini pump.
Different strokes (err, no strokes) for different folks.
07-30-15 | 09:10 PM
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The concern over expense and waste of using CO2 seems a tab over-played. I am sure most people throw the used cartridges in the recycle bin with the cans. And I am sure the $3 cartridges are sold to the same people that buy $6 tubes and high-priced candy.... er... energy bars. If they don't care how much they pay.... that's their business.
I could be way off base... but I thought most of us would buy consumables when/where prices are low and stock our own supplies... CO2 cartridges included.
+1 I feel the same way. But I also have a pretty vintage bike... with a pump nipple below the top tube. And I've been thinking a chrome frame pump might look nice hanging there.
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07-30-15 | 09:11 PM
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Also most new bikes won't handle frame pumps. The choices then are ones that fit behind bottle cages, or ones that hang out of pockets or bags.
07-30-15 | 09:14 PM
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I've been incredibly happy with this: which is apparently called the "Microflate Nano."
It's tiny, weighs barely anything (minus carts, obviously) and has no moving parts. Tighten the cartridge on to break the seal, push onto valve (presta or schraeder), unscrew cartridge slowly until gas starts flowing. Instant 120 psi with a 700x23, although it did take me a couple practice runs before I started seating it properly. I've burned through a 30 pack of cartridges (~$1 apiece) over a few years without a single botched attempt on the road. I slip a piece of inner tube over the cartridge to keep it from freezing to my fingers.
I carry one cartridge and a small Lezyne mini-pump. That way I've got the C02 if I'm lazy or in a hurry, the pump if I want to save CO2, and each is backup if the other fails (or runs out). Plus they're lighter together than either a bigger, faster pump or a safer number of cartridges
I spent $40 three times over on good pumps that got broken, stolen and lost. Probably ruined as many tubes with the frame pumps as I inflated.
It's tiny, weighs barely anything (minus carts, obviously) and has no moving parts. Tighten the cartridge on to break the seal, push onto valve (presta or schraeder), unscrew cartridge slowly until gas starts flowing. Instant 120 psi with a 700x23, although it did take me a couple practice runs before I started seating it properly. I've burned through a 30 pack of cartridges (~$1 apiece) over a few years without a single botched attempt on the road. I slip a piece of inner tube over the cartridge to keep it from freezing to my fingers.
I carry one cartridge and a small Lezyne mini-pump. That way I've got the C02 if I'm lazy or in a hurry, the pump if I want to save CO2, and each is backup if the other fails (or runs out). Plus they're lighter together than either a bigger, faster pump or a safer number of cartridges
I spent $40 three times over on good pumps that got broken, stolen and lost. Probably ruined as many tubes with the frame pumps as I inflated.
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07-31-15 | 12:05 AM
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Again, I'm not knocking pumps. To the OP, it's hard to say what is the best setup, the easiest answer is a setup that you're familiar with and can execute easily on the road. I like the portland design works chuck because I can screw it open and closed, this allows me to shoot a bit in the bad tube and find the hole. When I know where the hole is, I can inspect the tire for anything that might have caused the hole. Once I have that worked out, I can change the tube like normal and air up the tire with the rest of the co2.
07-31-15 | 02:57 AM
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But I also have a pretty vintage bike... with a pump nipple below the top tube. And I've been thinking a chrome frame pump might look nice hanging there.
07-31-15 | 07:49 AM
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I've been incredibly happy with this: which is apparently called the "Microflate Nano."
how did you ruin tubes with a frame pump?
It's tiny, weighs barely anything (minus carts, obviously) and has no moving parts. Tighten the cartridge on to break the seal, push onto valve (presta or schraeder), unscrew cartridge slowly until gas starts flowing. Instant 120 psi with a 700x23, although it did take me a couple practice runs before I started seating it properly. I've burned through a 30 pack of cartridges (~$1 apiece) over a few years without a single botched attempt on the road. I slip a piece of inner tube over the cartridge to keep it from freezing to my fingers.
I carry one cartridge and a small Lezyne mini-pump. That way I've got the C02 if I'm lazy or in a hurry, the pump if I want to save CO2, and each is backup if the other fails (or runs out). Plus they're lighter together than either a bigger, faster pump or a safer number of cartridges
I spent $40 three times over on good pumps that got broken, stolen and lost. Probably ruined as many tubes with the frame pumps as I inflated.
how did you ruin tubes with a frame pump?
It's tiny, weighs barely anything (minus carts, obviously) and has no moving parts. Tighten the cartridge on to break the seal, push onto valve (presta or schraeder), unscrew cartridge slowly until gas starts flowing. Instant 120 psi with a 700x23, although it did take me a couple practice runs before I started seating it properly. I've burned through a 30 pack of cartridges (~$1 apiece) over a few years without a single botched attempt on the road. I slip a piece of inner tube over the cartridge to keep it from freezing to my fingers.
I carry one cartridge and a small Lezyne mini-pump. That way I've got the C02 if I'm lazy or in a hurry, the pump if I want to save CO2, and each is backup if the other fails (or runs out). Plus they're lighter together than either a bigger, faster pump or a safer number of cartridges
I spent $40 three times over on good pumps that got broken, stolen and lost. Probably ruined as many tubes with the frame pumps as I inflated.
07-31-15 | 08:19 AM
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As I said, some people like co2 and some people don't.
Personally, I'd rather travel light and not carry a big pump. I'd also rather be on the road, riding again in 5 minutes, than spending 10 minutes trying to pump a tire up to 100psi with a mini pump.
Different strokes (err, no strokes) for different folks.
Personally, I'd rather travel light and not carry a big pump. I'd also rather be on the road, riding again in 5 minutes, than spending 10 minutes trying to pump a tire up to 100psi with a mini pump.
Different strokes (err, no strokes) for different folks.
It is funny CO2 guys comment on weight when many CO2 rigs plus 2 or 3 cartridges weigh more than most hand pumps. I think some mini floor pumps weight less like the Lezyne Micro Floor pump HP is only 150 gr. and that is a big 300 mm aluminum pump! It also can get you to 120 psi.
This trident 16gr cartridge
lists a gross weight of 62.5 gr while a Lezyne trigger drive is 26gr (one of the lighter CO2 adapter style inflators).
Put 2 Cartridges and an adapter and the whole rig weighs 151 gr.
If you use the Lezyne Control Drive adapter, it is 46 gr in weight. Add CO2 and you get a total of 171 gr with 2 cartridges.
If you use the Genuine Innovations Ultraflate (62 gr) plus 2 cartridges that will weigh 187 grs.
Add a third cartridge and forgettaboutit
I do not think you are saving any weight over nearly all pumps.
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07-31-15 | 09:17 AM
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It is funny CO2 guys comment on weight when many CO2 rigs plus 2 or 3 cartridges weigh more than most hand pumps. I think some mini floor pumps weight less like the Lezyne Micro Floor pump HP is only 150 gr. and that is a big 300 mm aluminum pump! It also can get you to 120 psi.
This trident 16gr cartridge
lists a gross weight of 62.5 gr while a Lezyne trigger drive is 26gr (one of the lighter CO2 adapter style inflators).
Put 2 Cartridges and an adapter and the whole rig weighs 151 gr.
If you use the Lezyne Control Drive adapter, it is 46 gr in weight. Add CO2 and you get a total of 171 gr with 2 cartridges.
If you use the Genuine Innovations Ultraflate (62 gr) plus 2 cartridges that will weigh 187 grs.
Add a third cartridge and forgettaboutit
I do not think you are saving any weight over nearly all pumps.
This trident 16gr cartridge
lists a gross weight of 62.5 gr while a Lezyne trigger drive is 26gr (one of the lighter CO2 adapter style inflators).
Put 2 Cartridges and an adapter and the whole rig weighs 151 gr.
If you use the Lezyne Control Drive adapter, it is 46 gr in weight. Add CO2 and you get a total of 171 gr with 2 cartridges.
If you use the Genuine Innovations Ultraflate (62 gr) plus 2 cartridges that will weigh 187 grs.
Add a third cartridge and forgettaboutit
I do not think you are saving any weight over nearly all pumps.
Honestly, if I'm concerned that much about a few grams, I'll carry one less water bottle.
07-31-15 | 10:09 AM
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GI Microflate Nano weighs ~25 grams. Lezyne 170mm mini-pumps weigh ~90 grams. Combine them and you've got the speed and convenience of CO2 and and the reliability of a pump, with each being a backup for the other. Lighter in total than 3 cartridges.
Weight's not that important, but might as well save it if you can.
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07-31-15 | 10:24 AM
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I use an Air Chuck. Whatever you use, look at the o-rings periodically. I had one come out and make the inflator useless.
I'm also one of those suckers that pays $3 for a cartridge. I don't have many flats so I just grab one out of the bins on bike shop counters.
I'm also one of those suckers that pays $3 for a cartridge. I don't have many flats so I just grab one out of the bins on bike shop counters.