miles vs altitude
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miles vs altitude
I have to ride 110 feet per mile up hill for 11 miles.
Now, I can do 40 miles just fine per day, just me and my bike per day.
Background history: I have been either riding 40 to 70 miles cross country or 40-70 miles in a single state with an equivalent of 40-55 pounds in a bob trailer except for the last 7 years. I have gotten kinda fat and ugly over those seven years and I kinda fart alot when I eat my favorite food "A Good old pot of pinto beans".
So anyway I am going from Aguanga ,calif . to warner springs calif and then to Brawley, calif and then to the 8 and then on the 10 through ariz,new mexico,and texas. I have already done this trip once before in 97 and then again in 2003. I am good with everything. My question is about starting in aguanga calif and passing through holcomb village on through warner springsthe on 79.
How would it be with a 50 lbs bob trailer. I have never really ever though about miles and elevation like a 6% grade or a 9% grade. All I know for sure is that if you look to the top of the hill or mountain you have already defeated yourself. When climbing a mountain or hill never look more then 8 feet in front of the bike or it's twice as hard. Try it! climb a hill or mountain with out looking long then 6-8 feet in front of you and you will notice it's just a little more strain then riding on flat land but if you look to the top, you might as well try to drag a bull elephant up that hill with you cause it's really going to feel like you did.
Sometimes you just don't ever know until you try. Tell me what you think.
I guess I am also wondering about the intelligence of this website. Is this a website about people that travels cross country and knows things? Do people talk from experience or are people coming to you with an opinion even though they don't even own a bike?
Some people seem to know about cross country riding but then some don't sound like they have ever ridden a bike
Some people say the craziest stupidest things and then every now and then you read some really intelligent stuff and it just kinda makes a newbie to this website wonder. Is there better websites out there?
Please don't think I am downgrading any body either. Those that don't own a bike have their opinion and all is good. I am totally about free speech even if you don't know what you are talking about. I am just asking from 1-10 do you think this is an intelligent website. "1" being "no" and "10" being the "best".
But hey, all is good. I am just mainly wanting to know what percent grade it would be to travel 110 feet per mile up hill for 11 miles. I know there will be up hills and down hills along the way so just think of it as all up hill.
Just wondering.
Now, I can do 40 miles just fine per day, just me and my bike per day.
Background history: I have been either riding 40 to 70 miles cross country or 40-70 miles in a single state with an equivalent of 40-55 pounds in a bob trailer except for the last 7 years. I have gotten kinda fat and ugly over those seven years and I kinda fart alot when I eat my favorite food "A Good old pot of pinto beans".
So anyway I am going from Aguanga ,calif . to warner springs calif and then to Brawley, calif and then to the 8 and then on the 10 through ariz,new mexico,and texas. I have already done this trip once before in 97 and then again in 2003. I am good with everything. My question is about starting in aguanga calif and passing through holcomb village on through warner springsthe on 79.
How would it be with a 50 lbs bob trailer. I have never really ever though about miles and elevation like a 6% grade or a 9% grade. All I know for sure is that if you look to the top of the hill or mountain you have already defeated yourself. When climbing a mountain or hill never look more then 8 feet in front of the bike or it's twice as hard. Try it! climb a hill or mountain with out looking long then 6-8 feet in front of you and you will notice it's just a little more strain then riding on flat land but if you look to the top, you might as well try to drag a bull elephant up that hill with you cause it's really going to feel like you did.
Sometimes you just don't ever know until you try. Tell me what you think.
I guess I am also wondering about the intelligence of this website. Is this a website about people that travels cross country and knows things? Do people talk from experience or are people coming to you with an opinion even though they don't even own a bike?
Some people seem to know about cross country riding but then some don't sound like they have ever ridden a bike
Some people say the craziest stupidest things and then every now and then you read some really intelligent stuff and it just kinda makes a newbie to this website wonder. Is there better websites out there?
Please don't think I am downgrading any body either. Those that don't own a bike have their opinion and all is good. I am totally about free speech even if you don't know what you are talking about. I am just asking from 1-10 do you think this is an intelligent website. "1" being "no" and "10" being the "best".
But hey, all is good. I am just mainly wanting to know what percent grade it would be to travel 110 feet per mile up hill for 11 miles. I know there will be up hills and down hills along the way so just think of it as all up hill.
Just wondering.
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I have to ride 110 feet per mile up hill for 11 miles.
Now, I can do 40 miles just fine per day, just me and my bike per day.
Background history: I have been either riding 40 to 70 miles cross country or 40-70 miles in a single state with an equivalent of 40-55 pounds in a bob trailer except for the last 7 years. I have gotten kinda fat and ugly over those seven years and I kinda fart alot when I eat my favorite food "A Good old pot of pinto beans".
Now, I can do 40 miles just fine per day, just me and my bike per day.
Background history: I have been either riding 40 to 70 miles cross country or 40-70 miles in a single state with an equivalent of 40-55 pounds in a bob trailer except for the last 7 years. I have gotten kinda fat and ugly over those seven years and I kinda fart alot when I eat my favorite food "A Good old pot of pinto beans".
I guess I am also wondering about the intelligence of this website. Is this a website about people that travels cross country and knows things? Do people talk from experience or are people coming to you with an opinion even though they don't even own a bike?
Some people seem to know about cross country riding but then some don't sound like they have ever ridden a bike
Some people say the craziest stupidest things and then every now and then you read some really intelligent stuff and it just kinda makes a newbie to this website wonder. Is there better websites out there?
Some people seem to know about cross country riding but then some don't sound like they have ever ridden a bike
Some people say the craziest stupidest things and then every now and then you read some really intelligent stuff and it just kinda makes a newbie to this website wonder. Is there better websites out there?
Please don't think I am downgrading any body either. Those that don't own a bike have their opinion and all is good. I am totally about free speech even if you don't know what you are talking about. I am just asking from 1-10 do you think this is an intelligent website. "1" being "no" and "10" being the "best".
But hey, all is good. I am just mainly wanting to know what percent grade it would be to travel 110 feet per mile up hill for 11 miles. I know there will be up hills and down hills along the way so just think of it as all up hill.
Just wondering.
But hey, all is good. I am just mainly wanting to know what percent grade it would be to travel 110 feet per mile up hill for 11 miles. I know there will be up hills and down hills along the way so just think of it as all up hill.
Just wondering.
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Percent grade is rise over run.
(110 feet rise) / (5280 feet in a mile) = 0.02 = 2% slope.
If you have a slope per mile, then the overall distance is irrelevant for slope calculations, although many mountains will vary from place to place.
Assuming you've actually been touring, then you must have hit some hills or mountains carrying your regular gear somewhere.
I suppose each person climb a hill differently. I make mini goals. Go to the next street sign, bench, around the corner, or over the rise. Or, sometimes, just keep the pedals turning.
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How would it be with a 50 lbs bob trailer. I have never really ever though about miles and elevation like a 6% grade or a 9% grade. All I know for sure is that if you look to the top of the hill or mountain you have already defeated yourself. When climbing a mountain or hill never look more then 8 feet in front of the bike or it's twice as hard. Try it! climb a hill or mountain with out looking long then 6-8 feet in front of you and you will notice it's just a little more strain then riding on flat land but if you look to the top, you might as well try to drag a bull elephant up that hill with you cause it's really going to feel like you did.
Sometimes you just don't ever know until you try. Tell me what you think.
If this works for you then don't look more than 8 feet in front you . Heck if you close your eyes it might feel like you're actually going downhill
Here's a calculator to figure the grade
Grade Percent Incline And Downgrade Calculator
Sometimes you just don't ever know until you try. Tell me what you think.
If this works for you then don't look more than 8 feet in front you . Heck if you close your eyes it might feel like you're actually going downhill
Grade Percent Incline And Downgrade Calculator
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i suspect the OP is a math teacher. they're always throwing extra facts and figures into the story problems to mislead the students.
they're sneaky like that.
they're sneaky like that.
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I don't understand a single word of this entire thread. The one thing I'm certain of is that as temperatures get colder around here, heated handle bars are looking like a good idea.
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Wow cross country I have never done. Good for you. 50 lb trailer yea that will be hard to drag period. Must admit I do not know Aguanga but I have ridden many roads on your first part of the journey ie Warner Springs to Brawley.
You will climb the question is what route take the 79 through Julian or Montezuma to Borrego or Ranchito to Ocotillo wells
The x factor in the Anza Borrego is always the wind if it is in your face (less likley) or across you (more likley) a trailer will be tough. When the wind blows in this area and it often does it can be brutal. For me hills, mountains are not an issue as they eventually end. I have climbed enough over the years to understand and succeed at climbing. The wind of the desert is another thing. Insidious unpredictable and out right demoralizing. The Anza has beat the hell out of me more than once. I prefer hills over wind anyday.
I have never toured more 500 miles but would always prefer the weight on my bike and as little as possible.
You will be in some pretty remote areas to begin with so I understand your need for gear food and water. Since you have done this in the past I assume you have that dialed in. For me route planing would be essential for reloading supplies.
You should post pictures as you go. Always wanted to do this, maybe one day
Good luck
You will climb the question is what route take the 79 through Julian or Montezuma to Borrego or Ranchito to Ocotillo wells
The x factor in the Anza Borrego is always the wind if it is in your face (less likley) or across you (more likley) a trailer will be tough. When the wind blows in this area and it often does it can be brutal. For me hills, mountains are not an issue as they eventually end. I have climbed enough over the years to understand and succeed at climbing. The wind of the desert is another thing. Insidious unpredictable and out right demoralizing. The Anza has beat the hell out of me more than once. I prefer hills over wind anyday.
I have never toured more 500 miles but would always prefer the weight on my bike and as little as possible.
You will be in some pretty remote areas to begin with so I understand your need for gear food and water. Since you have done this in the past I assume you have that dialed in. For me route planing would be essential for reloading supplies.
You should post pictures as you go. Always wanted to do this, maybe one day
Good luck
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the principal climbing difficulties along your route are:
1. a short mile or so stretch on the 79 a few miles into the ride. if memory serves, it's about a mile at 5-6% climbing out of the little valley onto the plateau.
2. a slow rise of a mile or two on the 79 before warner springs.
3. san felipe road heading towards the "y" intersection of the borrego springs turnoff or continuing to teofilio (sp?) summit. the steepest part is just before the turnoff
or, if continuing, just before teofilio summit. either heading to ranchita and to borrego springs or to teofilio summit, it's a steady 3-5% climb of a few miles.
biggest difficulty in the area is that ranchita is the windiest place in sd county and you're usually heading into a headwind the direction you're traveling. happy trails!
1. a short mile or so stretch on the 79 a few miles into the ride. if memory serves, it's about a mile at 5-6% climbing out of the little valley onto the plateau.
2. a slow rise of a mile or two on the 79 before warner springs.
3. san felipe road heading towards the "y" intersection of the borrego springs turnoff or continuing to teofilio (sp?) summit. the steepest part is just before the turnoff
or, if continuing, just before teofilio summit. either heading to ranchita and to borrego springs or to teofilio summit, it's a steady 3-5% climb of a few miles.
biggest difficulty in the area is that ranchita is the windiest place in sd county and you're usually heading into a headwind the direction you're traveling. happy trails!
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