rekmeyata

So a carbon wheel or fork or handlebar or frame breaking is not a brain/human body issue? I'll be sure to tell that to the person laying on the ground bleeding and broken the next time a CF fork (etc) breaks and I'm calling EMS.

Camilo

Chances are, it will never happen (that you come across a person laying on the ground bleeding and broken from a carbon fork failure). But, I'll agree, it could.

rekmeyata

I almost did when a guy I saw was riding along when suddenly I saw him lurch forward and did an endo over his bike but lucky for him he landed on soft dirt and grass, when I stopped to see how he was and finding out he only had minor scrapes he told me his CF bar just snapped right off. Upon looking at the bar it did not snap at the stem it snapped about an inch and a half from the stem so I doubted it snapped due to improper torquing of the stem bolts which does happen and crushes the CF which later leads to the same effect this rider experienced. This was a high end CF bar made by 3T.
And they have video of CF forks just breaking; see: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkDgwaqAXt4

All CF is not created equal to everyone's surprise. There are finge Asian manufacture who produce parts that are dangerously light and known for failing. Hyper exotic parts shipped with rider weight limits because of their extremely light nature, knockoff parts that emulate those provided by reputable manufactures are often seen for sale on E-Bay where many of you see them and think gee what a deal and buy them. So safety regulations should be put in place to protect us from crappy generic schit as well as keeping reputable manufactures accountable and, well reputable.

American Euchre

I'm led more and more to the conclusion that the bicycling industry just doesn't care about the health of cyclists at all. They seem to have some sort of tunnel vision that shaving a few grams here and there is the be all and end all of the cycling industry.

If this means making all carbon components, frames and forks that could snap without the slightest warning, then so be it. Apparently, the 12 grams saved is all worth it.

I'm staying far away from carbon frames and carbon components such as seat posts handlebars and stems.

American Euchre

What quality alternatives do we have to the carbon fork? Which manufacturers are making good (stiff, lightweight, strong) forks which can rival the strengths of carbon forks minus their aforementioned liabilities?

rekmeyata

Of course it's worth the 12 grams, if a manufacture can brag and prove something weighs less then they can charge us more money and in a lot cases a lot more money. Money rules the day not safety.

molten

What are you talking about. (no sic)
Metal always worked ON me. Carbon fiber broke on me once: I spoke in this thread once about my c/f handlebars breaking apart. And no-one in the thread argued. I take that as an agreement to my comments.

molten

'EMS' follows the call that the 'PD' makes. As the 'pd' is the first on the scene. In many cases, the 'pd' makes the wrong judgment. In too many areas, depending on where the emergency scene, the 'pd' and calling officer be: victims at the scene --- ARE PRE-JUDGED.
Pre-judged going by how one looks. And the decision for making a call is made from there. Not all disabilities are 'Visible Disabilities." This society we live in is a very biggoted society.

molten

You're lucky,
mine completely separated. In much the same area. As the handlebar tape supported to hold up the hanging (separated) piece of c/f. Try finishing a bike ride, with a tight grip that only has support of a short c/f sticking <-> of the stem. Part of that finishing be going through metro traffic/cars/trucks.

molten

You are not excluding that 'Carbon fiber' components that are found to have been made in China, as the brand name be of Italian. Such result definitely will "asplode." I know of someone who had received such: the rails look obviously different. Ebay has no separate policy for "fraud" received items.