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Staypuft1652 04-28-16 04:57 PM

Anyone tried the platformer 2.0's for any of the speedplays, especially zero's? I had read the original one's for the zero's were not terribly awesome....

Staypuft1652 04-28-16 05:39 PM

One question, probably nothing: after a little use, the r540 pedals have some grease that has seeped out from between the spindles and pedal body on the side facing crank arm, they are listed as sealed cartridge bearings, is this normal break in? Sorry if this is normal and my question is stupid. Sealed would lead me to think there should be no leakage etc, theres a decent amount on each side, but not excessive. Thanks.

kickstart 04-28-16 05:48 PM


Originally Posted by CliffordK (Post 18725794)
Yes, the standard double sided SPD pedals. I can usually just press the feet down and click in while pedalling. BTW, I've been snagging various models from bike co-ops for about $5 to $15 each (no cleats). Some in almost new condition.

These are the pedals I put on my recent new(ish) Colnago build, for no real reason other than aesthetics. I'm not sure what model, maybe PD-6500. I'll probably leave them on for now to see if I get used to them. But, may go back to standard double-sided pedals, especially if I choose to do another Portland Hill Climb ride.

Perhaps the only advantage is an extra couple of mm of cornering clearance. But, would only apply in extreme cases that I'm not doing. Weight isn't too different. Wellgo also has a single sided pedal, but I'm not sure if anybody is currently making them.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=518634http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=518635http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=518636

You can see how they naturally hang downward at about a 45° angle, so one has to always flip to engage.

The M780 trekking/touring pedal that is SPD on one side, and platform on the other. The SPD side faces to the rear at rest, so basically one points their toes up for clipping in, or toes down for the platform. It sounds complicated but it isn't, the key is that the pedal consistently hangs vertically.

Staypuft1652 04-29-16 05:49 PM

Just got some old Look pedals, say "Free Arc" on the back, with the adjustable float knob on back. Would I be correct in assuming these take the delta cleats?

Staypuft1652 04-29-16 05:51 PM

I think it adjusts the float at least from google's vast, limited knowledge.

Staypuft1652 04-29-16 06:14 PM

Nevermind. I see REI has them, I need the red ones apparently.

Staypuft1652 04-30-16 12:06 PM

These scuffed up Look's are definitely keepers.

twodownzero 04-30-16 12:36 PM


Originally Posted by sheltonlp (Post 18722665)
I've never used Speedplays but I've heard two different people complain that they can't step in dirt or gravel without needing to clean their cleats to use them. I haven't really had that problem with either my MTB 2-bolt or my SPD-SL road cleats.

That is true for dirt or mud, not so much for gravel. If you get enough trash in the cleats they won't release; don't ask me how I know.

simplybao 04-30-16 04:25 PM

I run Speedplay Frogs. They are a 2 bolt MTB pedal but I run them on my roadies and love them. The SZR is their new MTB pedal. I've never ridden "road" pedals so I can't comment on those. My friend that I ride with always takes a long time for him to clip in. I just take my foot off and I'm going long before he can get clipped in.

Staypuft1652 04-30-16 05:40 PM

I've tried 4 different systems in the matter of a couple weeks, speedplay zero, spd-sl, spd, and look delta. So far I find the single sided road pedals the easiest for me, but I believe when I get mountain/touring recessed cleat shoes, the spd may work better.

Staypuft1652 05-02-16 07:17 PM

Got some new specialized tahoe mtb spd shoes today, still a pain in the ass to clip into spd, do I just suck, do they wear in some, or is this just how it is... Spoiled to road pedals.

flatlander_48 05-06-16 07:25 PM

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Some years ago, I bought an inexpensive pair of RITCHEY MTB pedals. I learned to ride clipless pedals with those, but I noticed that I was always fiddling with the adjustment. I found this quite annoying.

Next I bought a pair of Crank Bros. Quattro pedals. They billed these as their true road pedal with the EggBeater core, but a larger platform than the Candys. I REALLY liked those! No adjustment to mess with. Consistent clip in and out and little or no centering on the float. I probably would still be riding them, but I lost interest when Crank Bros. discontinued them.

That led me to what I've been using for the past several years: BeBop Pedals. They function as road and MTB pedals. I use them for my road bike with a pair of Pearl Izumi MTB shoes. They have no adjustments and a smooth, low force clip in. There is no centering on the float and like the Crank Bros. pedals, you can unclip in either direction. That's important to me as I can only unclip with an inward rotation. The pedals and cleats are very open, so any debris falls out or gets pushed out. They come in carbon steel, stainless steel and titanium varieties. I use the stainless ones and they are rebuildable.

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=520189

Yan 05-06-16 10:26 PM

Get mountain pedals. That way you don't become a cripple as soon as you get off the bike.

PaulRivers 05-07-16 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by Staypuft1652 (Post 18736279)
Got some new specialized tahoe mtb spd shoes today, still a pain in the ass to clip into spd, do I just suck, do they wear in some, or is this just how it is... Spoiled to road pedals.

Your brain is likely just used to doing it one way, so when you get another pedal system it keeps wanting to do it the first way which doesn't work.

I personally definitely find mtb pedals easier to clip in and out of than road (speedplay) pedals even with the light action. I think (with the light action) my brain just doesn't like having to keep track of 2 different movements to do it.

techsensei 05-07-16 01:01 PM


Originally Posted by Staypuft1652 (Post 18726326)
One question, probably nothing: after a little use, the r540 pedals have some grease that has seeped out from between the spindles and pedal body on the side facing crank arm, they are listed as sealed cartridge bearings, is this normal break in?

I would not call them sealed bearings, but sealed mechanism. Regardless, don't be alarmed by a bit of seepage.

Staypuft1652 05-07-16 01:45 PM

Thankyou [MENTION=351052]techsensei[/MENTION]

Staypuft1652 05-07-16 01:48 PM

[MENTION=131376]PaulRivers[/MENTION] I find with the spd, if I don't pay much attention, I clip into them decent enough, after I start paying attention, success flies out the window.

flatlander_48 05-07-16 02:30 PM

What you're doing is attempting to override the muscle memory...

Staypuft1652 05-18-16 07:06 PM

Sorry to revive my own dead thread.... Took off the m324's and bought some m520's, due to alot of positive opinions and such, couldn't be happier. Thus far everything positive I have read about them has been true, super easy even in traffic to clip in.

PaulRivers 05-18-16 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by Staypuft1652 (Post 18779142)
Sorry to revive my own dead thread.... Took off the m324's and bought some m520's, due to alot of positive opinions and such, couldn't be happier. Thus far everything positive I have read about them has been true, super easy even in traffic to clip in.

m324's (old ones, 1 side flat 1 side clipless):
http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/...PL._SY355_.jpg

m520's (new ones, both sides clipless):
http://www.wigglestatic.com/product-...500&h=1500&a=7

I think the 2 sided pedals are noteably easier to clip in and out of without looking down at the pedals, compared to the one sided version. Other people disagree with me. Curious what you think, being that you switched from the 1 sided to the 2 sided version.

Staypuft1652 05-18-16 10:30 PM

The m324 required looking down almost always, then when the pedals broke in some, I assume the seals wore a little bit, and even when looking down it was difficult (for me) to flip the pedal to face spd side up. The m520 I can always clip into either immediately or press close enough to start pedaling and within half a revolution or so it clips in. I was worried about the small surface area creating worse hot spots, but they are no worse, possibly a little better. Other than being built solidly, for me I found no merits to the m324.

Staypuft1652 05-18-16 10:42 PM

Possibly something like the a530 might be weighted in such a way that the spd side faces up, but m324 its prone to facing down.

PaulRivers 05-18-16 11:04 PM


Originally Posted by Staypuft1652 (Post 18779563)
The m324 required looking down almost always, then when the pedals broke in some, I assume the seals wore a little bit, and even when looking down it was difficult (for me) to flip the pedal to face spd side up. The m520 I can always clip into either immediately or press close enough to start pedaling and within half a revolution or so it clips in. I was worried about the small surface area creating worse hot spots, but they are no worse, possibly a little better. Other than being built solidly, for me I found no merits to the m324.

Cool, thanks for writing back. I had either the m324's or something with a similar design, same issue, really didn't like them.

Staypuft1652 05-19-16 02:14 PM

You're welcome. Now I need to try to find some stiffer/arched footbeds/insoles for the specialized shoes I got, they still give me some hotspots, although I am a bigger guy, the ones they came with say plush, so seems reasonable to think different ones may help, just not sure where to look for them at.

Staypuft1652 05-19-16 02:41 PM

Also, I have read in a few places that speedplay light action cleats will work with zero pedals, can anyone confirm this? TIA

thin_concrete 05-19-16 03:39 PM


Originally Posted by Staypuft1652 (Post 18781424)
Also, I have read in a few places that speedplay light action cleats will work with zero pedals, can anyone confirm this? TIA

Theres a few people in the Road Cycling forum who've confirmed this.

thin_concrete 05-19-16 03:44 PM

See post #11 :

http://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycli...ht-pedals.html

Staypuft1652 05-19-16 04:36 PM

[MENTION=423178]thin_concrete[/MENTION] Thank you! That is one of the threads I had read leading me to believe it to be true, but couldn't find it again. I was basically gifted a pair of stainless zero's, found them somewhat difficult to enter/exit. Took the cleats apart, cleaned, dry lubed, put back together and was careful not to over-tighten. They worked reasonably better but upon reading about being able to use the light action cleats with them, or using the clip out of the light action in the zero cleat, it sounded great, as I am no where near racing.


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