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Old 04-28-16 | 01:53 PM
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The Shimano M780 pedals come to rest vertically which makes it super easy to get on the correct side every time.
Yes, the standard double sided SPD pedals. I can usually just press the feet down and click in while pedalling. BTW, I've been snagging various models from bike co-ops for about $5 to $15 each (no cleats). Some in almost new condition.

These are the pedals I put on my recent new(ish) Colnago build, for no real reason other than aesthetics. I'm not sure what model, maybe PD-6500. I'll probably leave them on for now to see if I get used to them. But, may go back to standard double-sided pedals, especially if I choose to do another Portland Hill Climb ride.

Perhaps the only advantage is an extra couple of mm of cornering clearance. But, would only apply in extreme cases that I'm not doing. Weight isn't too different. Wellgo also has a single sided pedal, but I'm not sure if anybody is currently making them.



You can see how they naturally hang downward at about a 45° angle, so one has to always flip to engage.
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Old 04-28-16 | 02:03 PM
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[MENTION=392454]CliffordK[/MENTION] They sure look sweet.
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Old 04-28-16 | 02:09 PM
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I really wanted to get some version of 2 bolt spd but too cheap to buy shoes right now, and was not sure, especially if installed on road shoes, how hard it would be to locate the cleats into the pedals. But really like the thought of all metal construction, also look very rugged.
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Old 04-28-16 | 04:32 PM
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7.8 miles today through city, one close call but no falls. Increased the tension one turn each side. Loving these pedals.
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Old 04-28-16 | 04:40 PM
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I ise the Speedplay Ultra Lights and love them. I have broken one of my ankles several times and I just never got comfortable with the SPD system, even with the tension turned all the way down.
I'm still on my original Speedplay X2 series. Great pedals as far as I'm concerned, and with the KeepOn covers, no real issues walking around. However, I'm not sure your endorsement that includes how often you've broken your ankles is helping Speedplay at all.

OT: Shouldn't the X-series patent be close to expiring soon so that there's competition with this form factor / pedal design?
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Old 04-28-16 | 04:57 PM
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Anyone tried the platformer 2.0's for any of the speedplays, especially zero's? I had read the original one's for the zero's were not terribly awesome....
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Old 04-28-16 | 05:39 PM
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One question, probably nothing: after a little use, the r540 pedals have some grease that has seeped out from between the spindles and pedal body on the side facing crank arm, they are listed as sealed cartridge bearings, is this normal break in? Sorry if this is normal and my question is stupid. Sealed would lead me to think there should be no leakage etc, theres a decent amount on each side, but not excessive. Thanks.
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Old 04-28-16 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by CliffordK
Yes, the standard double sided SPD pedals. I can usually just press the feet down and click in while pedalling. BTW, I've been snagging various models from bike co-ops for about $5 to $15 each (no cleats). Some in almost new condition.

These are the pedals I put on my recent new(ish) Colnago build, for no real reason other than aesthetics. I'm not sure what model, maybe PD-6500. I'll probably leave them on for now to see if I get used to them. But, may go back to standard double-sided pedals, especially if I choose to do another Portland Hill Climb ride.

Perhaps the only advantage is an extra couple of mm of cornering clearance. But, would only apply in extreme cases that I'm not doing. Weight isn't too different. Wellgo also has a single sided pedal, but I'm not sure if anybody is currently making them.



You can see how they naturally hang downward at about a 45° angle, so one has to always flip to engage.
The M780 trekking/touring pedal that is SPD on one side, and platform on the other. The SPD side faces to the rear at rest, so basically one points their toes up for clipping in, or toes down for the platform. It sounds complicated but it isn't, the key is that the pedal consistently hangs vertically.
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Old 04-29-16 | 05:49 PM
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Just got some old Look pedals, say "Free Arc" on the back, with the adjustable float knob on back. Would I be correct in assuming these take the delta cleats?
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Old 04-29-16 | 05:51 PM
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I think it adjusts the float at least from google's vast, limited knowledge.
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Old 04-29-16 | 06:14 PM
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Nevermind. I see REI has them, I need the red ones apparently.
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Old 04-30-16 | 12:06 PM
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These scuffed up Look's are definitely keepers.
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Old 04-30-16 | 12:36 PM
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I've never used Speedplays but I've heard two different people complain that they can't step in dirt or gravel without needing to clean their cleats to use them. I haven't really had that problem with either my MTB 2-bolt or my SPD-SL road cleats.
That is true for dirt or mud, not so much for gravel. If you get enough trash in the cleats they won't release; don't ask me how I know.
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Old 04-30-16 | 04:25 PM
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I run Speedplay Frogs. They are a 2 bolt MTB pedal but I run them on my roadies and love them. The SZR is their new MTB pedal. I've never ridden "road" pedals so I can't comment on those. My friend that I ride with always takes a long time for him to clip in. I just take my foot off and I'm going long before he can get clipped in.
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Old 04-30-16 | 05:40 PM
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I've tried 4 different systems in the matter of a couple weeks, speedplay zero, spd-sl, spd, and look delta. So far I find the single sided road pedals the easiest for me, but I believe when I get mountain/touring recessed cleat shoes, the spd may work better.
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Old 05-02-16 | 07:17 PM
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Got some new specialized tahoe mtb spd shoes today, still a pain in the ass to clip into spd, do I just suck, do they wear in some, or is this just how it is... Spoiled to road pedals.
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Old 05-06-16 | 07:25 PM
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Some years ago, I bought an inexpensive pair of RITCHEY MTB pedals. I learned to ride clipless pedals with those, but I noticed that I was always fiddling with the adjustment. I found this quite annoying.

Next I bought a pair of Crank Bros. Quattro pedals. They billed these as their true road pedal with the EggBeater core, but a larger platform than the Candys. I REALLY liked those! No adjustment to mess with. Consistent clip in and out and little or no centering on the float. I probably would still be riding them, but I lost interest when Crank Bros. discontinued them.

That led me to what I've been using for the past several years: BeBop Pedals. They function as road and MTB pedals. I use them for my road bike with a pair of Pearl Izumi MTB shoes. They have no adjustments and a smooth, low force clip in. There is no centering on the float and like the Crank Bros. pedals, you can unclip in either direction. That's important to me as I can only unclip with an inward rotation. The pedals and cleats are very open, so any debris falls out or gets pushed out. They come in carbon steel, stainless steel and titanium varieties. I use the stainless ones and they are rebuildable.

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Old 05-06-16 | 10:26 PM
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Get mountain pedals. That way you don't become a cripple as soon as you get off the bike.
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Old 05-07-16 | 12:07 PM
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Got some new specialized tahoe mtb spd shoes today, still a pain in the ass to clip into spd, do I just suck, do they wear in some, or is this just how it is... Spoiled to road pedals.
Your brain is likely just used to doing it one way, so when you get another pedal system it keeps wanting to do it the first way which doesn't work.

I personally definitely find mtb pedals easier to clip in and out of than road (speedplay) pedals even with the light action. I think (with the light action) my brain just doesn't like having to keep track of 2 different movements to do it.
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Old 05-07-16 | 01:01 PM
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One question, probably nothing: after a little use, the r540 pedals have some grease that has seeped out from between the spindles and pedal body on the side facing crank arm, they are listed as sealed cartridge bearings, is this normal break in?
I would not call them sealed bearings, but sealed mechanism. Regardless, don't be alarmed by a bit of seepage.
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Old 05-07-16 | 01:45 PM
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Thankyou [MENTION=351052]techsensei[/MENTION]
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Old 05-07-16 | 01:48 PM
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[MENTION=131376]PaulRivers[/MENTION] I find with the spd, if I don't pay much attention, I clip into them decent enough, after I start paying attention, success flies out the window.
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Old 05-07-16 | 02:30 PM
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What you're doing is attempting to override the muscle memory...
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Old 05-18-16 | 07:06 PM
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Sorry to revive my own dead thread.... Took off the m324's and bought some m520's, due to alot of positive opinions and such, couldn't be happier. Thus far everything positive I have read about them has been true, super easy even in traffic to clip in.
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Old 05-18-16 | 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Staypuft1652
Sorry to revive my own dead thread.... Took off the m324's and bought some m520's, due to alot of positive opinions and such, couldn't be happier. Thus far everything positive I have read about them has been true, super easy even in traffic to clip in.
m324's (old ones, 1 side flat 1 side clipless):


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I think the 2 sided pedals are noteably easier to clip in and out of without looking down at the pedals, compared to the one sided version. Other people disagree with me. Curious what you think, being that you switched from the 1 sided to the 2 sided version.
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