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I regret posting this experience and won't post anything of this nature again.
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The topic at hand is cyclists who think they are better because of their elitist attitude than those who cannot afford or don't wear kitted out gear.
My point is that I think that those who think they are better than others and scoff at the newer cyclist because the newer cyclist might not be kitted out is not treating people nicely.
That's my point. If you disagree with my thoughts then so be it.
I think from partial quotes and responses to individual attacks, if you don't read the thread through fully, it's probably pretty easy to get lost in this one. At the end of the day, I think everyone on a bike is cool. I normally ride in full cycling attire but have the utmost respect for those who are new to cycling. My main point, previously, was that if I'm out strolling around in basketball shorts, I have fun riding faster than ignorant people who scoff at a rider in street gear. No harm no foul.
My point is that I think that those who think they are better than others and scoff at the newer cyclist because the newer cyclist might not be kitted out is not treating people nicely.
That's my point. If you disagree with my thoughts then so be it.
I think from partial quotes and responses to individual attacks, if you don't read the thread through fully, it's probably pretty easy to get lost in this one. At the end of the day, I think everyone on a bike is cool. I normally ride in full cycling attire but have the utmost respect for those who are new to cycling. My main point, previously, was that if I'm out strolling around in basketball shorts, I have fun riding faster than ignorant people who scoff at a rider in street gear. No harm no foul.
Am I mis-reading that post of yours about that particular ride? Because to me, it sounded like you were somehow thinking you were better than the other kitted-out cyclist just because you happened to be faster than him.
That's hypocritical of your supposed premise that "My point is that I think that those who think they are better than others and scoff at the newer cyclist because the newer cyclist might not be kitted out is not treating people nicely. "
Sometimes you have to understand that you might have some internal inconsistencies and acknowledge them - because my reading of what you've written indicates that.
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I've been a member of this forum for a long time and this is my first and last post, of me sharing my experience while riding.
Thank you all for your replies, but it's obvious that I should not have posted my riding experience here.
I should not have wasted any of your or my time with this.
PS, Ride On...
Thank you all for your replies, but it's obvious that I should not have posted my riding experience here.
I should not have wasted any of your or my time with this.
PS, Ride On...
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Your problem is when you bragged about changing a "recovery ride" into a "hammer fest" to drop someone who was dressed in kit while you were dressed in other shorts. The implication from that little story you told is that you (1) read into the other person some sort of snarky attitude toward you and (2) that you somehow showed him the light by being a faster rider than him.
Am I mis-reading that post of yours about that particular ride? Because to me, it sounded like you were somehow thinking you were better than the other kitted-out cyclist just because you happened to be faster than him.
That's hypocritical of your supposed premise that "My point is that I think that those who think they are better than others and scoff at the newer cyclist because the newer cyclist might not be kitted out is not treating people nicely. "
Sometimes you have to understand that you might have some internal inconsistencies and acknowledge them - because my reading of what you've written indicates that.
Am I mis-reading that post of yours about that particular ride? Because to me, it sounded like you were somehow thinking you were better than the other kitted-out cyclist just because you happened to be faster than him.
That's hypocritical of your supposed premise that "My point is that I think that those who think they are better than others and scoff at the newer cyclist because the newer cyclist might not be kitted out is not treating people nicely. "
Sometimes you have to understand that you might have some internal inconsistencies and acknowledge them - because my reading of what you've written indicates that.
I've been a member of this forum for a long time and this is my first and last post, of me sharing my experience while riding.
Thank you all for your replies, but it's obvious that I should not have posted my riding experience here.
I should not have wasted any of your or my time with this.
PS, Ride On...
Thank you all for your replies, but it's obvious that I should not have posted my riding experience here.
I should not have wasted any of your or my time with this.
PS, Ride On...
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I've had the opposite happen. I was headed home after work, I had business meetings that day, so I needed to ride the city bike with loaded panniers, and I was dressed in baggie/relaxed riding clothes. As I started home there was a group ride just up the road (clearly not the "A group"), I paced them for about a mile. Then they hit a red light and I stopped with them, they kinda ignored me. The light turned green and I stayed on their wheel for 2 miles. At the next red light, one of the riders invited me to join their group ride next week (with a different bike). I was pushing myself to pace them, on roads I ride every day. But it gave me a grin.
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I believe in the act of just enjoying the ride and not worry about what the others think of your bike or how you are dressed. If others criticize the way you ride or your equipment then they obviously have too much time on their hands.
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It was very obvious to me,
that it was my attire that was being made fun of, by more than one from that group.
The comment which proceeded, was also directly addressed to me.
This behavior was totally uncalled for and rude to say the least.
Personally; I could care less what they may think or say, but that was my experience and of the 20+ years that I've been riding.
I've never encountered this attitude before, or at the least which I can recall.
Rest assured...
I will never post anything of the sort again on this forum.
It was my mistake.
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I'm still a bit new to serious cycling, and the only group ride I've been on there were all sorts of cyclists, those in full kit, people like me wearing workout clothes, and some just in T-shirt & shorts. Bicycles were anything from high-end Treks to Walmart Schwinns. Yet nobody made fun of anyone else. Had that happened, I'd probably have loaded my bike back up and gone back home. I'm of the opinion that I don't care what you wear or what kind of bike you ride as long as you're getting enjoyment out of riding.
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Where in AZ did this take place? Depending on the place and time, figuring out what group of cyclists it was might not be all that difficult.
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I heard what I heard.
It was very obvious to me,
that it was my attire that was being made fun of, by more than one from that group.
The comment which proceeded, was also directly addressed to me.
This behavior was totally uncalled for and rude to say the least.
Personally; I could care less what they may think or say, but that was my experience and of the 20+ years that I've been riding.
I've never encountered this attitude before, or at the least which I can recall.
Rest assured...
I will never post anything of the sort again on this forum.
It was my mistake.
It was very obvious to me,
that it was my attire that was being made fun of, by more than one from that group.
The comment which proceeded, was also directly addressed to me.
This behavior was totally uncalled for and rude to say the least.
Personally; I could care less what they may think or say, but that was my experience and of the 20+ years that I've been riding.
I've never encountered this attitude before, or at the least which I can recall.
Rest assured...
I will never post anything of the sort again on this forum.
It was my mistake.
What did you actually hear?
How old were these guys?
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@caloso, very nice.
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I've been a member of this forum for a long time and this is my first and last post, of me sharing my experience while riding.
Thank you all for your replies, but it's obvious that I should not have posted my riding experience here.
I should not have wasted any of your or my time with this.
PS, Ride On...
Thank you all for your replies, but it's obvious that I should not have posted my riding experience here.
I should not have wasted any of your or my time with this.
PS, Ride On...
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I would like to conciser this thread closed/done for me.
It isn't worth the effort for me to continue it.
I feel the fool for posting it and I'm sorry.
It isn't worth the effort for me to continue it.
I feel the fool for posting it and I'm sorry.
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I used to work with a guy from southern Italy who had a very healthy attitude towards life. He would often say:
"If someone tells you that you have a big nose, and you have a big nose, well, why get angry?
If, on the other hand someone tells you that you have a big nose and you don't have a big nose, why get angry, because you know you don't have a big nose."
I like my bikes. I dress however I want. I'm a happy guy.
You like your bike. Dress however you want. Enjoy your bike and be happy. If someone else has anything to say about it, well, it really is their problem.
"If someone tells you that you have a big nose, and you have a big nose, well, why get angry?
If, on the other hand someone tells you that you have a big nose and you don't have a big nose, why get angry, because you know you don't have a big nose."
I like my bikes. I dress however I want. I'm a happy guy.
You like your bike. Dress however you want. Enjoy your bike and be happy. If someone else has anything to say about it, well, it really is their problem.
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To those posters who say they don't believe the OP.....why not? What reason would he have to lie? And to those who say they've never experienced being derided by another cyclist, no matter how they were dressed, or those who claim they have never seen it happen, just keep this in mind...it could happen. All because something hasn't happened to you(yet) doesn't mean it never will.
I've been riding bikes since I was 10 years old, almost for 42 years now. I was only made fun of once, back when I was in high school. It hasn't happened since. That's not to say it won't happen tomorrow or a few years from now. Anything is possible. If it ever would happen again, I'd handle it the same way I did back when I was a pimple faced teenager; with a smile and a wave and then be on my way.
I've been riding bikes since I was 10 years old, almost for 42 years now. I was only made fun of once, back when I was in high school. It hasn't happened since. That's not to say it won't happen tomorrow or a few years from now. Anything is possible. If it ever would happen again, I'd handle it the same way I did back when I was a pimple faced teenager; with a smile and a wave and then be on my way.
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Your problem is when you bragged about changing a "recovery ride" into a "hammer fest" to drop someone who was dressed in kit while you were dressed in other shorts. The implication from that little story you told is that you (1) read into the other person some sort of snarky attitude toward you and (2) that you somehow showed him the light by being a faster rider than him.
Am I mis-reading that post of yours about that particular ride? Because to me, it sounded like you were somehow thinking you were better than the other kitted-out cyclist just because you happened to be faster than him.
That's hypocritical of your supposed premise that "My point is that I think that those who think they are better than others and scoff at the newer cyclist because the newer cyclist might not be kitted out is not treating people nicely. "
Sometimes you have to understand that you might have some internal inconsistencies and acknowledge them - because my reading of what you've written indicates that.
Am I mis-reading that post of yours about that particular ride? Because to me, it sounded like you were somehow thinking you were better than the other kitted-out cyclist just because you happened to be faster than him.
That's hypocritical of your supposed premise that "My point is that I think that those who think they are better than others and scoff at the newer cyclist because the newer cyclist might not be kitted out is not treating people nicely. "
Sometimes you have to understand that you might have some internal inconsistencies and acknowledge them - because my reading of what you've written indicates that.
That's what I read too.
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Frankly, I don't believe it. I don't believe the cyclists cared about a commuter/utility type biker and if they did, I dont' believe they'd actually vocalize anything about it.
I guess I have to believe you since, of course I don't know you. But really, I don't believe it. It's so far from my experience or any common sense.
I guess I have to believe you since, of course I don't know you. But really, I don't believe it. It's so far from my experience or any common sense.
My guess is this ...
When people want to hear something, they do.
So in this case, the OP is quietly running an inner dialogue thinking about his clothing etc. and speculating that roadies in full kit might look askance at him dressed like that, and perhaps feeling a bit self conscious as people who are new to a sport or activity often do feel. So when the group of roadies shouted something, he presumed they said something about clothing ... but it was quite possibly a different word entirely. Then they started laughing, the first thought was "here we go, they're laughing at me" ... but they were probably laughing about something else entirely. And then they shouted something else that sounded to him like "nube" and again, it was probably something else entirely. Distance, wind, road noise, etc. can also play a part.
So he believes he heard/experienced all that ... but chances are it wasn't that at all.
It's kind of like people who post the entire sentences they heard people shout at them from a moving car. You heard all that? Really? All I usually get is "alfkjaf cewljer ROAD werjlajer vovuaodf"
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I was in Azzi a couple weeks ago, but alas I did not ride or I might have gotten caught up in this travesty.
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