Tools! What tools do I need?
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Thanks for the replies and suggested brands.
My dad used to have a bunch of rental properties and my shed has accumulated an embarassing amount of cheap abandoned bikes that my dad promised he was going to work on but will probably never fix. Nothing extraodinary except a vintage Sears Roebuck 3 speed IGH, and a rather nice unidentified butted steel frame road bike which is sadly too big for me but I figure I can fix them for kids, nieces/nephews rather than just throw them away. Plus its a good excuse to buy some pretty tools and learn a new skill.
A few questions about specific tools:
Cable cutters - what is the difference between these and some quality linesmans cutters?
T-handle allen wrenches - whats the advantage of these over say a socket and rachet type setup? I have a set of L allen wrenches and short and long allen wrench sockets already. I have thumb ratchets and mini-ratchets, so small torque applications are no problem.
Beer - whats a good brand? I prefer the small independent ones but what have you found to best lubricate those nasty jobs?
I believe all the bottom brackets I'll be working on will be the standard threaded kind as most of the bikes are older bikes One of my personal bike has a Shimano octalink crank, I didn't really look at the bottom bracket standard on that bike. A recent acquisition has late 90s era Campy Record groupset though I haven't taken a close look at it; I assume its standard as well.
I have the thinking of adapting my engine stand simply because of space constraints. I don't know how well the wife will tolerate another "big" fixture around. I'll do a how to when I build it up.
My dad used to have a bunch of rental properties and my shed has accumulated an embarassing amount of cheap abandoned bikes that my dad promised he was going to work on but will probably never fix. Nothing extraodinary except a vintage Sears Roebuck 3 speed IGH, and a rather nice unidentified butted steel frame road bike which is sadly too big for me but I figure I can fix them for kids, nieces/nephews rather than just throw them away. Plus its a good excuse to buy some pretty tools and learn a new skill.

A few questions about specific tools:
Cable cutters - what is the difference between these and some quality linesmans cutters?
T-handle allen wrenches - whats the advantage of these over say a socket and rachet type setup? I have a set of L allen wrenches and short and long allen wrench sockets already. I have thumb ratchets and mini-ratchets, so small torque applications are no problem.
Beer - whats a good brand? I prefer the small independent ones but what have you found to best lubricate those nasty jobs?

I believe all the bottom brackets I'll be working on will be the standard threaded kind as most of the bikes are older bikes One of my personal bike has a Shimano octalink crank, I didn't really look at the bottom bracket standard on that bike. A recent acquisition has late 90s era Campy Record groupset though I haven't taken a close look at it; I assume its standard as well.
I have the thinking of adapting my engine stand simply because of space constraints. I don't know how well the wife will tolerate another "big" fixture around. I'll do a how to when I build it up.
Last edited by zze86; 10-14-16 at 08:34 PM.
#28
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Easy to make at home. Get a copper pipe a bit narrower than your headset, take a hack saw and cut an X into one end, pull the "petals" outwards. $4 and works exactly like the far more expensive Park Tool option.
For press fit installation, a 2' section of threaded rod, a couple fender washers, and some nuts, and you effectively have the same tool Park sells for about $8 total.
For press fit installation, a 2' section of threaded rod, a couple fender washers, and some nuts, and you effectively have the same tool Park sells for about $8 total.
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Speed is the biggest advantage. It's easier to grab a different size, and quite fast to spin down a fastener. I would consider them a nice thing to have readily available, but far from necessary. If they aren't front and center in your work area, it is unlikely that you'll go out of your way to use them. The only fasteners on a bike that a ratchet is the first thing I reach for are axle nuts. Quite simply, with the exception of self-extracting cranks, almost nothing on a bike will be more easily removed with a ratchet. Corrosion that is causing difficulty removing a bolt may cause me to reach for a ratchet, but they are usually such low force applications that the ratchet doesn't trip, so the tool essentially becomes a large, unwieldy wrench. Thumb ratchets obviously fix this problem, but it is still almost universally easier to use the right sized wrench, and just grab the right size for the part you are working on. Specifically re: hex keys, ball-end keys in the sizes used on bicycles are easy to spin a fastener down one handed, so T-handles become much less necessary.
#30
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Bikes: 2014 Huffy Cranbrook , 2017 Huffy Classic Deluxe, 1972 Raleigh LTD 3
For me an allen wrench set is key. A few wrenches, flat head/Phillips head screwdrivers, good to go. I keep them in my bike bag
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Bikes: '87-ish Pinarello Montello; '89 Nishiki Ariel; '85 Raleigh Wyoming, '16 Wabi Special, '16 Wabi Classic, '14 Kona Cinder Cone, 2023 Surly Disk Trucker
These are my favorite bike-specific tools in no particular order. Like you, I always buy the best quality tools and all of these are "pro" quality. You won't need all of these but a good chain breaker, cassette puller, chain whip, cone wrenches and pedal wrench are a must for the serious home mechanic. The one tool that I use most of all wasn't cheap either and it is the PB Swiss Allen set. Even Bundhus plays second fiddle to these wrenches and Bundhus are darned good.
30 year old VAR cable cutters
Stronglight crank puller
Hozan ratcheting crank bolt remover
Campy circle-type spoke wrench
Effetto Mariposa Giustaforza torque wrench
Abby chain whip
Abby double-ended cassette puller
Hozan Pro chain breaker I ordered from Japan - (dang this one is NICE!)
Various 30 year old Campy tools (Cone wrenches, bottom bracket lockring/cup wrench, headset wrench, "peanut butter" wrench, 8mm "T: handle Allen wrench and freewheel tool)
Park PRS-10 stand
Park Pro PRS-20 Euro-style stand (I really like this one - best stand on the market if you ask me)
20 year old Unior pedal wrench
PB Swiss Allen wrench set
I have a LOT of Snap On wrenches, socket sets, ratchets, etc but those aren't bike specific. I buy the best quality tools I can afford....always, every time.
30 year old VAR cable cutters
Stronglight crank puller
Hozan ratcheting crank bolt remover
Campy circle-type spoke wrench
Effetto Mariposa Giustaforza torque wrench
Abby chain whip
Abby double-ended cassette puller
Hozan Pro chain breaker I ordered from Japan - (dang this one is NICE!)
Various 30 year old Campy tools (Cone wrenches, bottom bracket lockring/cup wrench, headset wrench, "peanut butter" wrench, 8mm "T: handle Allen wrench and freewheel tool)
Park PRS-10 stand
Park Pro PRS-20 Euro-style stand (I really like this one - best stand on the market if you ask me)
20 year old Unior pedal wrench
PB Swiss Allen wrench set
I have a LOT of Snap On wrenches, socket sets, ratchets, etc but those aren't bike specific. I buy the best quality tools I can afford....always, every time.
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Something I haven't seen listed but you probably already own is a rubber or plastic head hammer. I used electrical conduit for my headset cup torpedo. I didn't try copper but thought it might be a little too flexible. But I've only used it once, so not a biggie either way.
I have one of those Park "second hand" tools for brakes. It's actually not that great of a tool but I do use it (I covered it in electrical tape to avoid scratching).
scott s.
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I have one of those Park "second hand" tools for brakes. It's actually not that great of a tool but I do use it (I covered it in electrical tape to avoid scratching).
scott s.
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#33
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From: Fernandina Beach FL
Bikes: Vintage Japanese Bicycles, Tange, Ishiwata, Kuwahara
I am a tool fanatic and have quite a collection of hand tools already but I'm thinking of adding some bicycle specific tools to my tool chest since I'm hoping to work on my own bikes. I am wondering what special tools do I need to work on bikes? Specifically, I know I want to be able to remove and clean the bottom bracket and quite possibly switch cassettes around on different wheelsets. I firmly believe in paying extra for a high quality tool, many of my automotive tools are professional grade SnapOn, Matco, Bosch and Milwaukee brands despite me being just a home tinkerer (oh yes, I can tell the difference between these and the very decent Craftsman handtools) so is there a specific brand(s) that anyone recommends?
For a bike repair stand I am actually looking at re-purposing an engine stand (these thing are not only great for holding engines but make great portable bases for all sorts of things)
For a bike repair stand I am actually looking at re-purposing an engine stand (these thing are not only great for holding engines but make great portable bases for all sorts of things)
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From: NE Indiana
Bikes: 2020 Masi Giramondo 700c; 2013 Lynskey Peloton; 1992 Giant Rincon; 1989 Dawes needs parts; 1985 Trek 660; 1985 Fuji Club; 1984 Schwinn Voyager; 1984 Miyata 612; 1977 Raleigh Competition GS
I also buy tools as I need them, this way I'm not buying a package deal getting tools I may never use or getting redundant tools that I don't need. I've done this with my automotive tools over the last 40 plus years, my home tools, and my bike tools, and I don't have a huge tool chest because of doing it that way. It's cheaper that way too. Keep in mind that some of your current tools will work on a bike, so there's no need to get a set just to have redundant stuff...unless you just like seeing tools everywhere and lots of them, I know a person like that but of course he has over 35 vintage and classic cars! but no bikes...LOL!! So he can afford a lot of tools and he's a gearhead, but the odd thing is, he doesn't work as a mechanic or do anything mechanical for a living, but he's better than most pro mechanics!





