Tire mounted backwards
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Tire mounted backwards
I noticed yesterday that when I flatted my front Mavic R-Sys wheel about 500 miles ago, I re-mounted the Mavic directional tire backwards on the rim after replacing the tube.
Stupid question: Can I be lazy and just flip the QR skewer around in the hub or do I need to remount the tire on the rim?
Thanks,
Tom
Stupid question: Can I be lazy and just flip the QR skewer around in the hub or do I need to remount the tire on the rim?
Thanks,
Tom
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Doesn't really matter on road tires. They must have extra arrows they needed to use up, so stuck them on some tires.
You'll get better traction once the tread is worn down.... it's just for decoration.
You'll get better traction once the tread is worn down.... it's just for decoration.
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I built my wheels so that the label is in the correct position to be read by the rider. I read this is the correct direction for the hub. But I am sure it is only a cosmetic OCD thing. It would bother me if it were't in the correct position. Although some labels are wrapped around the hub so I am sure it does not matter to people who don't care about things like that. You know, lining up the tire label with the valve, trailing spokes running in the correct direction type issues.
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First of all, tread direction makes little, if any, difference on pavement, though it can be important with dirt tires.
Second, rolling direction makes absolutely no difference to a front wheel with a plain front hub (no brakes, no generator, etc).
So, if you'd prefer the tire rolls the way the arrow points, feel free to flip the wheel. Don't forget to remove the QR skewer, because most are easier to use with the lever on the left side.
BTW - it's common for folks using tubulars in alpine conditions to reverse the front wheel from time, because the braking action can cause them to creep (look for an angled valve, that wasn't installed that way) and reversing the wheel lets them correct themselves rather than making you work for your supper.
Second, rolling direction makes absolutely no difference to a front wheel with a plain front hub (no brakes, no generator, etc).
So, if you'd prefer the tire rolls the way the arrow points, feel free to flip the wheel. Don't forget to remove the QR skewer, because most are easier to use with the lever on the left side.
BTW - it's common for folks using tubulars in alpine conditions to reverse the front wheel from time, because the braking action can cause them to creep (look for an angled valve, that wasn't installed that way) and reversing the wheel lets them correct themselves rather than making you work for your supper.
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You REALLY need a new user name. Lazyass, my ass.
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What? Doesn't everybody flip their wheels around every hundred miles? You have to even out the wear on the hub bearings!
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Is this true? What about tires with water-clearing swipes? Wrong direction channels to /leaves water on the contact patch. Correct direction, away from contact patch.
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Depends a bit on the width of the tire, but if we're talking your standard road tire sizes, the water-clearing swipes are there more for looks than function.
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I built my wheels so that the label is in the correct position to be read by the rider. I read this is the correct direction for the hub. But I am sure it is only a cosmetic OCD thing. It would bother me if it were't in the correct position. Although some labels are wrapped around the hub so I am sure it does not matter to people who don't care about things like that. You know, lining up the tire label with the valve, trailing spokes running in the correct direction type issues.
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There's a fundamental difference between car and bicycle tires, which explains why one needs tread to pass water and the other doesn't.
A car tire presents a broad flat surface to water as it rolls through it. In thus way it's like a flat bottom planing boat or water ski, and can ride up onto the water, something called Hydroplaning. The cuts in the tread act as escape channels allowing the water to escape and prevent the hydroplaning.
But a bicycle tire is crowned, and cuts through water like the V shaped bow of a boat. This pushes the water out the side, so there's no ability to climb up onto it, and no escape channels are needed. The much higher pressure of bike tires ensures that the amount of surface needed to support the bike will be small, so there's not enough surface to support the tire on water.
Of course, if the speeds are higher, hydroplaning might become possible, but we're talking about speeds far above anything a bike will ever reach except maybe on the Bonneville flats behind a pacer.
BTW - if you're not convinced, take a look at modern motorcycle tires which are roughly the width of car tires, and yet are mostly treadless, because the crowned shape solves the problem without help.
Side note. I mentioned that I thought that there is some benefit to tread. It's not for rain, but I suspect (based on experience) that minimal tread or grooves can act as interrupts and reduce the amount of sliding in shallow sand or find gravel patches. As the tire slides on these "ball bearings" the particles can fall into the groove, rather than continuing to roll across the entire width of the tire. It's marginal but I've ridden the same basic tubulars for almost 50 years, and have noticed the variation in sand skid performance between various tread designs. I don't make big claims for this benefit, more by way of beats nothing.
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Last edited by FBinNY; 11-02-16 at 06:33 PM.
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I'm glad you got that sorted out, but did you check to see if the tire was on upside down after you flipped the wheel?
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Oh come on, no one told him the proper solution is to move to the Southern Hemisphere?
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