I have a 2015 Breezer Storm Comp and this is a general frame question though related to the Storm.
I bought the Storm new in August 2016 and just noticed that the downtube does not align to the center of the top tube. Visually the downtube appears to be about a quarter-of-an-inch to the right of the top tube where it attaches to the top tube, near the head tube. Is this not unusual? Don't frame manufacturers normally align all the tubes and check overall alignment prior to welding? I don't see it as a performance issue if the bottom bracket and rear axle align properly and they may but just looks a bit off and poor quality control.. Am I wrong?

The people you need to talk to would be the folks at Breezer.

I have already contacted them by email and declined to weigh in on it. They referred me to a local bike shop. That is kinda why I put the question to the forum

Can you actually measure the misalignment? Can you show beyond doubt that the tubes are out of line or out of square? If the frame is misaligned it will not be as strong as a properly aligned frame would be---not necessarily noticeably weaker, but it cannot transmit forces quite as well as an aligned frame.

You might need to consider legal remedies.

Also ... if you send an email and they blow you off, they win. Their thought would be, "He doesn't care, so too bad for him." if you want a properly assembled frame you will need to call, and call again, and fight it out until you get what you want.

Is this a super small frame? Usually the down tube and top tube never meet.

Photos would help, although these kinds of alignment issues are hard to photograph.

You bought an old-stock bike 4 months ago. DId you buy it from a local bike shop, or over the internet?

If the bike rides fine, I'd probably ignore it. It sounds like it is unlikely to be an issue that will cause any problems, and there isn't an easy fix.

as long as the key points are in line, the rest is cosmetic

(says a guy who has home built 4 frames that ride fine but don't look *quite right* from certain angles)

I'm Not "they" ... they are working at a factory on the other side of the Pacific Ocean from Here, and don't have time to read this Forum.



High Volume Production the parts Go Into Jigs & Fixtures to speed the work, But probably are not taken once finished ,

to a Dial Indicator laden Alignment table .. and twealed to the nearest mm,

like your multi thousand dollar Hand made American Steel Pro Race Bike frame, May..


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The design of these bikes is a little different. I didn't understand what he was describing until I looked at images of the bikes.

Ahhh.... I was imagining the Breezer Venturi, or similar bikes.

Still, it sounds rather cosmetic. I am surprised though. The tubes should be metered, so they should line up fairly well during assembly. If the bike was new, I might be more insistent that they "got it right" as it could point to a manufacturing process error (they may not care anyway).

One has a few points on the frame. Head Tube, Seat Tube, (Seat Post, Bottom Bracket), and rear triangle. If all the main components are aligned, then a slight misalignment of one of the tubes connecting them together shouldn't make a big difference.

I'd probably eye-ball whether the stem and fork seemed to align with the seat tube, seat post, and rear wheel. If everything seemed aligned, then just ignore it.

Wow, talk about lousy quality-control!

What did the local shop say?

I have not taken the bike to al local shop. I asked Breezer if they would pay to have it checked out which may not be a reasonable request and asked them if there was a problem with the frame and it required moving the components off of this frame to a new one, would they pay to have it done... Sent that to them twice and have not heard back from them.. I think the frame is probably ok, in fact I have ordered upgraded Deore XT deraillers and next year will order Deore XT shifters too. The bike is a bit twitchy so am going to try a 10 degree, 120mm (7 degree, 90mm stock) steering stem to try and tame that down. Other than the twitchy steering, the bike rides fine.