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Old 02-28-17, 08:02 PM
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Bike Seat (Saddle)

Can't understand when a rider calls a saddle a seat, and gets chuckled(or worse)at? What does the "saddle" get attached to? A SEAT POST,of course!

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Old 02-28-17, 08:21 PM
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You're expecting the English language to be consistent? Silly boy.
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Old 02-28-17, 08:25 PM
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I had that very thought a few weeks ago, then I bought a new saddle. It looks nice on my old seatpost.
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Old 03-01-17, 06:41 AM
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You're riding a bicycle that has some parts measured in millimeters and some parts still measured in inches.
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Seatpost
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

A bicycle seatpost, seatpin, saddlepole, saddle pillar, or saddle pin is a tube that extends upwards from the bicycle frame to the saddle.

"Saddle Pillar" sounds a little suggestive...or is that just me?
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Old 03-01-17, 11:20 AM
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UK english its called the seat or saddle pin..

You are free to look up what people who dont speak English call the various parts of their bicycles.




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Old 03-01-17, 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by gringomojado View Post
..... and gets chuckled(or worse)at?.....
Seat, Saddle, it doesn't matter. But I do know what those people are called, and it's impolite.
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Old 03-01-17, 12:23 PM
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I went to a LBS to look at a replacement saddle, specifically one with a relief cut in it. Being a somewhat newbie to the sport, I mistakenly asked to see some bike seats. I was impolitely told that they don't sell "seats". I asked "what are those then", pointing to the wall display of saddles.... and he said that "those are saddles".
I left, not buying anything and it took me a while to understand what happened that day. I still don't understand the hangup about bicycle nomenclature but for some people, it is of utmost importance. I say, just ride and have fun doing so...
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Originally Posted by NYMXer View Post
I went to a LBS to look at a replacement saddle, specifically one with a relief cut in it. Being a somewhat newbie to the sport, I mistakenly asked to see some bike seats. I was impolitely told that they don't sell "seats". I asked "what are those then", pointing to the wall display of saddles.... and he said that "those are saddles".
I left, not buying anything and it took me a while to understand what happened that day. I still don't understand the hangup about bicycle nomenclature but for some people, it is of utmost importance. I say, just ride and have fun doing so...
That helpfull LBS employee was a jackass. I'd shop elsewhere.
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Old 03-01-17, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Retro Grouch View Post
You're riding a bicycle that has some parts measured in millimeters and some parts still measured in inches.
And if you have an Italian threaded bottom bracket, you can get both in the same component: 36mm diameter and 24 threads per inch.
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Old 03-01-17, 07:50 PM
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Then you clip into clipless pedals
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Seats are for putting most of your weight on. Saddles are for putting less weight on. A recumbent will have a seat, a bicycle will have a saddle.
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Then you clip into clipless pedals
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If someone is willing to lose customers based on a hardcore need to call the thing that is on top of the seatpost a saddle, then they clearly have too much money or will soon be wondering why they went out of business.
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Originally Posted by NYMXer View Post
I went to a LBS to look at a replacement saddle, specifically one with a relief cut in it. Being a somewhat newbie to the sport, I mistakenly asked to see some bike seats. I was impolitely told that they don't sell "seats". I asked "what are those then", pointing to the wall display of saddles.... and he said that "those are saddles".
I left, not buying anything and it took me a while to understand what happened that day. I still don't understand the hangup about bicycle nomenclature but for some people, it is of utmost importance. I say, just ride and have fun doing so...
Too many in the cycling community are hung up in the 18th century. And that includes the UCI.
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Old 03-02-17, 07:24 AM
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Old 03-02-17, 07:51 AM
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Originally Posted by gringomojado View Post
Can't understand when a rider calls a saddle a seat, and gets chuckled(or worse)at? What does the "saddle" get attached to? A SEAT POST,of course!

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Yes, English is somewhat inconsistent but in this case, the "seat post" part is wrong. Like a saddle on a horse, you don't "sit" on a bicycle saddle. At least you don't sit on it if you want to be comfortable. You should, like riding a horse, be only supported by the saddle but your legs do the major work of bearing your weight.

If you "sit" on a saddle...horse or bicycle...tender bits are going to end up more tender. People who don't know the difference often have tender bits that are more tender and complain mightily about it.

As for other bicycle goofiness, one of my pet peeves is kilograms-force (kgf). The metric system has a perfectly useable unit of force called the newton.
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Old 03-02-17, 08:48 AM
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There was a guy that came into the shop looking for a seat pole. What would attach to that?
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There was a guy that came into the shop looking for a seat pole. What would attach to that?
Whatever it is, it might not be comfortable.....
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Always sounded crazy to me too. A lot of bike language originated in Europe. They call the the hood of a car a "bonnet" and the trunk the "boot." The windshield is the "windscreen." Another inconsistency is saddle sore. I still call it a seat. I don't care if is right or wrong.
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Are 27.5" wheels actually 27.5"?
Are 29" wheels actually 29"?

We seem to care a lot about a few oddities, enough to argue the point each time, never actually convincing anyone...... Then, never care about other oddities.... is there someone out there that knows all of these, and it ready to carry the flag for each and everyone one of them?
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Originally Posted by cyccommute View Post
Yes, English is somewhat inconsistent but in this case, the "seat post" part is wrong. Like a saddle on a horse, you don't "sit" on a bicycle saddle. At least you don't sit on it if you want to be comfortable. You should, like riding a horse, be only supported by the saddle but your legs do the major work of bearing your weight.

If you "sit" on a saddle...horse or bicycle...tender bits are going to end up more tender. People who don't know the difference often have tender bits that are more tender and complain mightily about it.

As for other bicycle goofiness, one of my pet peeves is kilograms-force (kgf). The metric system has a perfectly useable unit of force called the newton.
I also like kilonewton, but what about western saddles?
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Originally Posted by gringomojado View Post
I also like kilonewton, but what about western saddles?
Kilonewton is perfectly legitimate. It's just 1000 newtons like a kilogram is 1000 grams.

Western horse saddles still support the rider rather than serve as a "seat". Granted they have longer stirrups than an English saddle does but the rider should stand on the stirrups rather than try to sit on the horse.
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Originally Posted by Kindaslow View Post
Are 27.5" wheels actually 27.5"?
Are 29" wheels actually 29"?
Yes they are. But the rim isn't that size. A 27.5" tire measures close to that diameter if the tire is a 2.25" tire. But the rim measures 584mm (23.0"). A 29" tire measure close to that diameter also if the tire is also a 2.25" tire but the rim measures 622mm (24.5"). Frankly, it would be less confusing if we measured bicycle wheels and tires by the ISO/ETRTO diameter of the rim.
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Best to use the ETRTO numbers, they are specific. Its the diameter where the tire bead and rim bead seat meet.


but what about western saddles?
you taking up calf roping and need that horn to tie your lasso rope onto, cowboy.?





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