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Old 08-29-17 | 05:40 PM
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Walnuts aren't good.

Here in SW Ohio, we have Osage oranges, too. They'll fall in the road and roll down to the bottom of the hill. Easy to see, luckily.



These are thought to have been eaten by giant ground sloths and mammoths, back in the day.
Hmm we call those hedge apples around here. They are supposed to be good for keeping away wasps, spiders and other creepy crawlies. My mother use to put some around the house, until she heard they attracted roaches lol.
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Old 08-29-17 | 06:17 PM
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Careful with them acorns! I have seen smaller rocks cause some bad stuff
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Old 08-29-17 | 06:31 PM
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Originally Posted by WT21
I've only biked in the summer. Going to try to stretch into the fall

Two questions:

I have light short sleeve jerseys which have been fine for summer. I have stuff to put on my arms and legs (e.g. knee warmers, etc.) but I am still thinking the Jersey is VERY thin material. Do you guys layer, or do you step up the thickness of the jersey material? Is there a certain type of Jersey or layer to look for?

Also, the acorns are starting to drop around here in my very wooded section of the northeast -- bike hazard or no? (at high speeds)

At what temps do you find you start putting on more from your summer gear?
fallen leaves can hide ruts or dips, and are slippery when wet. I have about had my bars wrenched out of my hands a couple of times hitting a rut hidden by leaves.

If you ride somewhat off-road trails, you have to be aware of whether it is hunting season where you ride and take appropriate measures.
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Old 08-29-17 | 06:48 PM
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Oh, and to answer your other questions:

Yes, acorns can be hazardous. I follow the Old School roadie rules which require covering the knees at 65F or lower.
65F? seriously? True, you're down South but up North, like where I am, we're are a bit more tolerant to the cold I don't wear anything on my legs until temperature dips to 10C (50F).

Here it's not acorn to worry about but Canadian geese. I almost hit one this morning (rubs its tail) when it decided to change direction. First time I saw one do that. Usually it's squirrels that can't make their mind...
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Old 08-29-17 | 07:44 PM
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65F? seriously? True, you're down South but up North, like where I am, we're are a bit more tolerant to the cold I don't wear anything on my legs until temperature dips to 10C (50F).

Here it's not acorn to worry about but Canadian geese. I almost hit one this morning (rubs its tail) when it decided to change direction. First time I saw one do that. Usually it's squirrels that can't make their mind...
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Old 08-29-17 | 08:03 PM
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Hey, thanks for the link
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Old 08-29-17 | 08:57 PM
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You don't swerve to miss them do you? That's being suicidal yourself. Just like if you are in a car you never swerve to miss a small animal. The only difference being on a bike if you are by yourself and no one is behind you hitting the brakes hard would be an option if you are comfortable doing it. Personally I'm not risking my bike or myself for a stupid squirrel. If you hit one, you even have dinner wrapped up!
I hiss loudly at squirrels up ahead. It seems to scare them away most of the time.

I've heard that a good strategy is to aim directly at the squirrel. They like to dodge and change direction at the last instant, sometimes running into a cyclist that's trying to avoid them.
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Old 08-29-17 | 10:02 PM
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Originally Posted by WT21
I've only biked in the summer. Going to try to stretch into the fall

Two questions:

I have light short sleeve jerseys which have been fine for summer. I have stuff to put on my arms and legs (e.g. knee warmers, etc.) but I am still thinking the Jersey is VERY thin material. Do you guys layer, or do you step up the thickness of the jersey material? Is there a certain type of Jersey or layer to look for?

Also, the acorns are starting to drop around here in my very wooded section of the northeast -- bike hazard or no? (at high speeds)

At what temps do you find you start putting on more from your summer gear?
Yes, layer.
Yes, buy a thicker long-sleeved jersey.
Yes, buy a windbreaker jacket.
And then perhaps also a rain jacket.

As the temperature gets cooler, you might do several layers with the jacket over the top.

Because you won't be showing off your cool jersey (it will be covered in a jacket) you can look for polypro layers and merino wool layers. I like a sleeveless jersey on the bottom with polypro next, and topped with merino wool or something along those lines.
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Old 08-29-17 | 11:47 PM
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Top: Arm warmers under 60F; jersey+ wind jacket or merino base layer under jersey under 50-55F; merino base layer, jersey, jacket (rain or wind) for 40-50F; soft shell, merino base layer (I skip the jersey at this point) under 40F.

Bottom: Under 55-60F: Shorts and tall socks. Under 45-50: Leggings over shorts and wool socks; neoprene foot warmers.

Hands: Cheapo hi-viz mechanic's gloves appear somewhere in the high 30s/low 40s.

As you can see from the responses here, comfort in cooler weather is in part a personal thing, but a few items will go a long way. I'm another one of those people who runs warm and loves cold weather...the real cycling fashion fun doesn't start until winter!
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Old 08-30-17 | 02:12 AM
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I have to add in face/neck coverings. Might not be a problem for you though, idk...but when it's too cool out, I get ear & jaw pain from the wind while riding, even in temps up to 50-55F. I usually wrap a scarf over my head, ears, mouth & nose, then down around my neck. I usually have a fleece headband over my ears under the scarf, or just that if it isn't too cold out.
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Old 08-30-17 | 06:30 AM
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I've never hit a squirrel and they are all over the place here, but I never, ever try to avoid them. Just hold your line and I doubt you'll ever hit one (hopefully).

now rabbits, which we have a good many of those, I have run over one of them, but again, was just holding my line, went up and over it, and it ran off

dangerous spots are where you have to turn like a 180 to change course and their is sediment, sand, acorns, or what ever in those places where cars seldom ride

oh and buy some buffs (neck gaiter) on amazon, they are good for keeping your neck and head warm, but they also breathe
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Old 08-30-17 | 07:09 AM
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Don't overdress. You should aim to be comfortable after 10-15 minutes of riding. This was a big one for me. I bike commute year-round (down to 10F), and after I learned to not overdress I began arriving at work or home cool and refreshed instead of hot and sweaty.

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+1 windbreaker in front, venting in back. Same for leggings (If necessary). A couple of years ago I saw some non bike specific light workout tights with a venting strip down the sides. They are perfect. But I don;t usually wear them until it gets down below 40F. I secure the bottoms with black elastic hair bands...have not died from embarrasment.

I also use cheap cotton work gloves in the fall. They block enough wind but still let my fingers breath. You can wear them under or over your bike gloves, and the ones with those textured rubber grip-dots work really well on the bike.

Layers are the key for me. Not only do they trap warm air, they allow for modifications. I commute with a back pack (usually on the back rack), so I can carry extra layers if I have underestimated the cold, or to carry the layers I have shed if I overestimated the cold.

If you are a recreational/sports rider, you may want to consider a small backpack, or frame bag to carry an extra layer of clothing.

TLDR: Windbreaking but Breathable, Don't overdress, allow for adjustments.

And don't forget hi-vis, reflectors and at least blinkies...it will start to get dark early.
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Old 08-30-17 | 07:13 AM
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Don't overdress. You should aim to be comfortable after 10-15 minutes of riding.
This. I ride year round in Indiana. If you are toasty your first minute of riding, in 20 you will boil.
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Old 08-30-17 | 07:18 AM
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Personally, I won't ride if I need a jacket. That's when the temperature is in the 30's or low 40's F...with a wind.
Mid to low 60's I'll go with a long-sleeve base layer under a jersey.
Low 60's into the 50's I'll go with a long-sleeve jersey with base layer(s).
Mid 50's into the 40's I'll add long cycling tights to the long-sleeve jersey and base layers.

I just don't like the bulk of a jacket, and if the temperature gets that low, I'm just not that interested in cycling. But that's me.
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Old 08-30-17 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by BobbyG
Don't overdress. You should aim to be comfortable after 10-15 minutes of riding.
+1. So many people in my local club dress to be comfortable in the parking lot before a ride. 10-15 minutes into the ride they are too warm, especially if we have hit hills. It also tends to warm as the morning progresses. People end up needing to shed layers and sometimes don't have enough jersey pocket capacity.


I do self contained tours in areas and at times when it can be in the 40s or 50s when I start out but quickly warm as the sun gets a little higher. I have learned to tolerate starting out feeling a bit chilly so I don't have to stop by the side of the road to shed layers soon after I start riding. But even when I do have to do that I have the carrying capacity.
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Old 08-30-17 | 10:55 AM
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And when you pull it off your sweaty chest, you can walk to a mirror and read the day's news
I forgot to mention that you should buy a quality newspaper. (I always wear a tee in any weather I cold enough that I might need the newspaper.)

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Old 08-31-17 | 06:26 AM
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Originally Posted by WT21
At what temps do you find you start putting on more from your summer gear?
40°

Sometimes I might throw on a long sleeve t-shirt if it's 50 or below. I don't wear bicycle gear, just synthetic t-shirts, liner shorts, and athletic shorts over the liners. 40 is usually the cutoff for me for shorts.

So for Fall weather, since it's not cold in the fall, it's shorts and t-shirt just like in the summer only I'm now comfortable rather than roasting hot.

My ventilated shoes with regular socks are good down to 23° I learned last year. At 23°, I went with wool socks with the same shoes and was fine. Thinner gloves with fingers for below freezing and thicker gloves in the 20's.
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Old 08-31-17 | 07:42 AM
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Hmm we call those hedge apples around here. They are supposed to be good for keeping away wasps, spiders and other creepy crawlies. My mother use to put some around the house, until she heard they attracted roaches lol.


We call them horse apples in Texas.
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