It doesn't sound like you are getting much advice about tires, which is what you were asking about. The tires that you liked on the Giant Cypress were either the Giant P-X3, 700x38, Multi-Surface tire or something like it. This is what kind of tread they have:



I would look for another 700x38c tire with a similar tread. It should fit your Verve and will likely have better traction on some wet surfaces and snow compared to the Bontrager H5 tires you have right now. Neither tire will save you on ice.

Studded tires. Also Conti TopContact Winter.

I'm having good results with balloon semi slicks. Third winter now. I used to run all manner of chunky on-road tyres like those above, and it was a bit brave to go with a tyre with such little rubber on it, but i was sold on the comfort element of the thin-wall balloons.

They work really well in the wet and frost, because they give so much warning - the bike understeers at the limit, the front wheel will slide a bit but not let go completely. I've never had that before really, chunky tyres are a gonner once they slide. These were near useless in deep snow, but what isn't...

I should add this is a very heavy bike, but i first used them on a 15kg job. And these particular Fat Frank are the 26x2.35in version but they're available for 622's a bit thinner in 2.0in (700c/28/29er).

Will this kind of tire fit in the OP's hybrid?

Yes, there are two sizes for the two ultra-common wheels over here;
A) 26in MTB/cruiser - 559mm
B) 700c road/hybrid/29er - 622mm

Schwalbe list the latter as 28x2.0, which some sources claim are - traditionally - a 635mm rim with a narrower tyre.

However, these are 700x48c (50-622) so whilst listed as a 28x2.0 they are for a 700c 622mm rim; 700c, 28in, 29'er.

So you're saying a 2" wide tire is going to fit in the stays or fork of a hybrid bicycle?


(Trek says the max for the Verve is 38mm, which is pretty common for hybrids.)

Obviously each bike varies with the subject of tyre clearance. The manufacturer gives a clearance margin that can be ventured into, depending on width of rim.

Obviously the bike in question would have to be measured to ensure fit like any other non-standard part. You wouldn't try to put them on a track bike but you have a good chance with a road hybrid - and should have plenty of clearance on a chunky mountain style hybrid with suspension forks like that one.

The Verve takes 38mm tires, max. Very few hybrids take much wider than that.

I went ahead and ordered a pair of Vittoria Corsa Speed tubulars for my commuter

Unfortunately the 700x25 tubulars aren't out quite yet. They should be here soon. Oh, and no 650c tires for the front

"Bike to the Future!"
I would have thought that by 88 years from now this problem would be solved.

Studded tires, as already noted by [MENTION=175367]jfowler85[/MENTION], are the notable exception to this otherwise true statement. "Black" ice is no more slippery than other ice; its danger is that it looks like the road surface and its presence may not be noticed or appreciated. Studded tires render ice almost (but not quite!) harmless. See the attached image of riding on a frozen lake with studded tires.
Steve

Oily-Wet, smooth, steel plates, in the roadway .. none are.. ride with care over painted stuff on the pavement too..

Okay. But a little more than 'very few' hybrids around here have them. In fact, said Fat Franks have been fitted to countless road bikes, modern hybrids and traditionals in place of the original skinny tyres. They were designed specifically to do so, and feature in more narrow hybrid forks than any other fork type. They have no tread on the side, so can afford that margin on universal guidelines. They are also less than two inches when fitted onto a narrow rim, such as a hybrid's.

But hey, you know best, so ignore this lot below and we'll all simply remember that whenever someone gives a suggestion on absolutely anything ever, it is down to people to do their own homework to ensure that suggestion is valid in their own unique situation. And that no suggestion is therefore guaranteed, any more than no counter 'facts' are either.

Oh, and they'll still fit her bike. Imo.

None of those bikes are run of the mill hybrids. While I appreciate your passion about these tires, the point of the thread is to suggest tires that will increase the traction of the OP's Trek Verve - a very common production hybrid that isn't designed for the semi-custom market that your examples were.

It might be fun to get in the weeds about some things on bike forums, but the OP is clearly not a home mechanic or gear head, but regular bike owner trying to find some tires in a town that doesn't have a bike shop to insure that tires will fit. The OP is relying on more experienced people to figure out what will work on her bike so the right tire can be shipped and mounted the first time.

So I don't know why you would say that a 48mm tire will fit a bike with 38 max.

Well it's not that simple when modifying a bike. And fitting non-standard tyres is a modification.

I'm also not judging someone's competence on making such modifications.

People are welcome to make both conservative and bold suggestions, that's mine, and chances are it's a valid one. It's for her to find out if it's something that'd work or not.

"Modification". What sort of modification are required to put a 48mm tire in a bike with a max of 38, and were you going to include those instructions with your suggestion? When were you going to mention that the tires were non-standard?

Most people would read your posts as "you can buy this much fatter tire and it will fit without issues".

Do you usually recommend stuff that you realize requires modification or might not work at all and just let the other person figure it out? Why not tell the whole story instead of potentially screwing people?

The modification in question is a frameset replacement. If the OP wants to use 2" tires, the most efficient approach would be to get a new bike.

I like it !!!

Well just to add my two cents since we're on the subject of finding tires that will fit just last week I bought some 700x28's and attempted to fit them on my road bike where the 23's were, since I had measured the width I saw that I had enough room , so I swapped the tires over the front went right in the back another story, the width was no problem the overall diameter had increased and wouldn't fit in the frame all the way into the dropouts, I thought only the width changed,,, livenlearn,,,,

Some road bikes won't even fit 25s.

So I swapped everything back checked the clearance and I may have 3/16's

Or use her old bike, as reported that it was better at the job...

I'd imagine the OP would use her or old bike if she had it, or use the old bike tires if she had them, or be able to tell what kind of tire her old bike had if she still had it.

It doesn't sound like the OP has her old bike.

You're invited to my next party. I wanna see if you're as much fun as you seem.

Tubs on a commuter...dang! I dig it though. I would hate to get a flat on one while commuting, not that any flat is good but having to carry around a new tube and a needle and thread and glue or a new tire is a pain and then the actual job of changing it...

650c is hard to find these days in most anything. Now with 650b more prevalent I doubt we will see any resurgence of 650c but it would be interesting if it did but in the modern wider tires and rims.

It's too bad your post where you called me an idiot went away. If anything says friendly, that was it.