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chris93263 06-02-18 10:09 PM

Help identifying frame
 
i picked this up from a yard sale at a multi-million dollar house. The owner said the frame was a custom and/or something that starts with an M like Murphy or Murray. He kept saying Murphy, but he wasn’t 100% sure.

It was worth the $50 for the wheels and to feel what a fixie is like. I’d like to know if anyone can figure out the frame make. It’s been painted over with thick neon paint, and there are no visible serial numbers.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3b54afdc2.jpeg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...772213eef.jpeg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...bafbddc3a.jpeg

The handle bars show a royal blue under the chipped neon paint.

LesterOfPuppets 06-02-18 10:39 PM


Originally Posted by chris93263 (Post 20373790)
i picked this up from a yard sale at a multi-million dollar house. The owner said the frame was a custom and/or something that starts with an M like Murphy or Murray. He kept saying Murphy, but he wasn’t 100% sure.

It was worth the $50 for the wheels and to feel what a fixie is like. I’d like to know if anyone can figure out the frame make. It’s been painted over with thick neon paint, and there are no visible serial numbers.
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...3b54afdc2.jpeg
https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...772213eef.jpeg
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...bafbddc3a.jpeg

The handle bars show a royal blue under the chipped neon paint.


Low end department store action from the 70s it looks like. Murray sounds like a good guess.

Wheelset isn't super nice but it's better than the frame.

dedhed 06-03-18 05:40 AM

Stamped crimped drop outs says you might have paid too much.

Always take pictures from the drive side

chris93263 06-03-18 06:49 AM

I was thinking it was a POS frame. I saw the crap plate DOs. They were just so adamant about it being a nice bike. Lol. They wanted $100. I just told them it was worth $50 to me. Take it or leave it.

Theres no no way I paid too much. I’m going to have $50 worth of fun and sell this thing for $75 minimum. Everything is more expensive in Newport Beach (Orange County, CA).

JohnDThompson 06-03-18 07:03 AM

Low-end department store frame "custom assembled" with somewhat better wheels.

chris93263 06-03-18 08:02 AM


Originally Posted by JohnDThompson (Post 20374075)
Low-end department store frame "custom assembled" with somewhat better wheels.

that’s what I’m thinking too.

Happy Feet 06-03-18 05:02 PM

Yep. There's no getting around those crimped chainstays. But so what if you enjoy it.

I've converted a similar bike to a SS and it was a fun project

Before:

https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1737/...f60b4b8e_z.jpg


After:

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4462/...2e032463_z.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4494/...172e6f11_z.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4511/...abc389fa_z.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4468/...5f281f9a_z.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4452/...83e4b208_z.jpg

Charliekeet 06-03-18 08:06 PM

OP will get his money back for sure - someone will pay for the paint, and for what will be an all-set-up, ready to go fixie experience with its “custom” components. That’s legit, so I say cheers to the OP!

(And a vehement Booooo! to the multi-million-dollar-house-having clown from whom the OP purchased. Remember that, kids: just cause someone has money doesn’t mean you have to respect or venerate them automatically or believe them when they speak confidently without having any knowledge...

they might just be a “moron”, which is maybe the M-name that should have leapt into the bigshot seller’s mind!) :p

chris93263 06-04-18 11:40 AM


Originally Posted by Happy Feet (Post 20374860)

Beautiful bike. Great job. Thanks for sharing. It may inspire me to swap these wheels over to a quality frame that fits me.

chris93263 06-04-18 11:41 AM


Originally Posted by charliekeet (Post 20375131)
op will get his money back for sure - someone will pay for the paint, and for what will be an all-set-up, ready to go fixie experience with its “custom” components. That’s legit, so i say cheers to the op!

(and a vehement booooo! To the multi-million-dollar-house-having clown from whom the op purchased. Remember that, kids: Just cause someone has money doesn’t mean you have to respect or venerate them automatically or believe them when they speak confidently without having any knowledge...

They might just be a “moron”, which is maybe the m-name that should have leapt into the bigshot seller’s mind!) :p

super custom deluxe pedalglide automatic single gear race ready green people eating machine

LesterOfPuppets 06-04-18 11:44 AM

It could use a shorter reach front brake. It likely had 590mm rims originally so the brake arms don't have the right reach for those 622mm rims.

chris93263 06-05-18 11:09 AM


Originally Posted by LesterOfPuppets (Post 20376211)
It could use a shorter reach front brake. It likely had 590mm rims originally so the brake arms don't have the right reach for those 622mm rims.

I noticed that when I adjusted them. when I got it, the brake pads were vertical. I had to do some fanangling to get them to this point. I'm a car guy who is learning the bike thing. how would I go about determining the specs for correct brakes? i.e. what are the measurement points of reference?

LesterOfPuppets 06-05-18 11:16 AM


Originally Posted by chris93263 (Post 20378167)
I noticed that when I adjusted them. when I got it, the brake pads were vertical. I had to do some fanangling to get them to this point. I'm a car guy who is learning the bike thing. how would I go about determining the specs for correct brakes? i.e. what are the measurement points of reference?

Measure from the mounting bolt to the center of the braking surface on the rim. That'll be your reach. It can be a little tough shopping by reach sometimes. Universal is kind enough to list the reach on their site:

https://www.universalcycles.com/shop...7&category=671

chris93263 06-06-18 02:02 PM

Thanks. that's a sweet website for newbies.


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