2nd Hand Bike Values - Rule of Thumb ??
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2nd Hand Bike Values - Rule of Thumb ??
I have other hobbies where it's generally accepted that a second hand value for a 2 /3 year old item is about 50 / 60% depending on how it's been looked after / condition, is there a general rule of thumb for bikes ... I'm guessing it wouldn't be that dissimilar unless it's unusual / collectors items?
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Yeah: that's about right. The bike loses 30% of resale value the moment is goes out the shop door, and is worth 50% of retail 3 years later.
Keep in mind that nobody pays full retail; you can buy essentially the same bike stuff direct from Asia for half the price of first-world country retail. This is partially due to retail and wholesaler mark-ups, but also due to first-world pricing fixing/enforcement by the big bike makers and component manufacturers. So US residents pay more than residents in say E. Europe, for no other reason than they can.
Another factor: bike chains last 2-3,000 miles no matter how you take care of them. Most bike owners, even of high-end gear blissfully ignore servicing requirements, until the chain and then the entire drivetrain is prematurely and hopelessly worn out. Assume that your average 3-year old bike need a new chain, cassette and chainrings: a $250 bill, plus labor.
Keep in mind that nobody pays full retail; you can buy essentially the same bike stuff direct from Asia for half the price of first-world country retail. This is partially due to retail and wholesaler mark-ups, but also due to first-world pricing fixing/enforcement by the big bike makers and component manufacturers. So US residents pay more than residents in say E. Europe, for no other reason than they can.
Another factor: bike chains last 2-3,000 miles no matter how you take care of them. Most bike owners, even of high-end gear blissfully ignore servicing requirements, until the chain and then the entire drivetrain is prematurely and hopelessly worn out. Assume that your average 3-year old bike need a new chain, cassette and chainrings: a $250 bill, plus labor.
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Best Rule Of Thumb? It depends.
If you're the seller, you cite the original MSRP and the over-optimistic prices on ebay.
If you're the buyer........... then it's Bicycle Blue Book !!
If you're the seller, you cite the original MSRP and the over-optimistic prices on ebay.
If you're the buyer........... then it's Bicycle Blue Book !!
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Cheers for that and useful info re servicing / chain as well .... I bought my 29er - 2nd hand and have just about done 1,000 miles on it ... maybe I should get the chain checked out at least!
I think it's funny that SO MANY of the bikes advertised on e-bay have only been ridden between 10 to 50 miles or ... "Only Ridden Twice" ...if one of those rides is John O Groats to Lands End and the other a round the world tour that's quite some riding ... but it was only 2
I think it's funny that SO MANY of the bikes advertised on e-bay have only been ridden between 10 to 50 miles or ... "Only Ridden Twice" ...if one of those rides is John O Groats to Lands End and the other a round the world tour that's quite some riding ... but it was only 2
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Varies with condition and location.
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Cheers for that and useful info re servicing / chain as well .... I bought my 29er - 2nd hand and have just about done 1,000 miles on it ... maybe I should get the chain checked out at least!
I think it's funny that SO MANY of the bikes advertised on e-bay have only been ridden between 10 to 50 miles or ... "Only Ridden Twice" ...if one of those rides is John O Groats to Lands End and the other a round the world tour that's quite some riding ... but it was only 2
I think it's funny that SO MANY of the bikes advertised on e-bay have only been ridden between 10 to 50 miles or ... "Only Ridden Twice" ...if one of those rides is John O Groats to Lands End and the other a round the world tour that's quite some riding ... but it was only 2
I know right, I have had my bike for less than a month and have close to 200 miles on it. Every time I see that I think hmm BS move on.
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I take a pessimistic view of used pricing. Be wary of worn drive trains, lack of frame warranties, older geometries, older suspension design, lack of availability of suspension parts, older tech in general. OTOH, it is helpful to compare what you are buying used against what it would cost to buy the equivalent bike at new prices. Also watch for sellers who are overly optimistic about the value of any upgrades they've done over the years. Most sellers over-value their upgrades.
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If you live in a high bike using town , the value of a used bike is higher ,
so Portland is where you sell your bikes ,,
at least that's how it works around here.
cost of most things is higher there..
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so Portland is where you sell your bikes ,,
at least that's how it works around here.
cost of most things is higher there..
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Yeah: that's about right. The bike loses 30% of resale value the moment is goes out the shop door, and is worth 50% of retail 3 years later.
Keep in mind that nobody pays full retail; you can buy essentially the same bike stuff direct from Asia for half the price of first-world country retail. This is partially due to retail and wholesaler mark-ups, but also due to first-world pricing fixing/enforcement by the big bike makers and component manufacturers. So US residents pay more than residents in say E. Europe, for no other reason than they can.
Another factor: bike chains last 2-3,000 miles no matter how you take care of them. Most bike owners, even of high-end gear blissfully ignore servicing requirements, until the chain and then the entire drivetrain is prematurely and hopelessly worn out. Assume that your average 3-year old bike need a new chain, cassette and chainrings: a $250 bill, plus labor.
Keep in mind that nobody pays full retail; you can buy essentially the same bike stuff direct from Asia for half the price of first-world country retail. This is partially due to retail and wholesaler mark-ups, but also due to first-world pricing fixing/enforcement by the big bike makers and component manufacturers. So US residents pay more than residents in say E. Europe, for no other reason than they can.
Another factor: bike chains last 2-3,000 miles no matter how you take care of them. Most bike owners, even of high-end gear blissfully ignore servicing requirements, until the chain and then the entire drivetrain is prematurely and hopelessly worn out. Assume that your average 3-year old bike need a new chain, cassette and chainrings: a $250 bill, plus labor.
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I made the mistake of looking up bluebook on my 2015 Trek 520. Just frigging sad. But I guess great for those buying one. Didn't even bother looking up my Montague. Guess I'll keep my bikes until their being sold in an estate sale.
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I have other hobbies where it's generally accepted that a second hand value for a 2 /3 year old item is about 50 / 60% depending on how it's been looked after / condition, is there a general rule of thumb for bikes ... I'm guessing it wouldn't be that dissimilar unless it's unusual / collectors items?
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No more new bikes for me.I have a few projects to complete and a few new bikes I still have not ridden.
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Good point. The market for used bikes is highly location-specific. Left-leaning jurisdictions such as Portland, Vancouver and Shakytown feature the highest used-bike prices on the planet. Stuff you couldn't give away on the Plains goes for big $$. I always wondered if there was a business model in shipping large lots of discarded bikes from say Kansas City and landing them in Portland.
Another consideration: used mountain bikes with suspension are a very high-risk purchase. Most of these bikes I see at our local Co-op have seized or blown suspension forks, due to the internals wearing out, or blown cartridges and seals, or they got filled with water and are now corroded-up tight.
Finally: listed prices on Craigslist are initial (usually delusional) first offers, which are meant to be countered. Why would I pay more for a 3-year old bike on Craigslist than I can buy essentially the same thing new and have shipped from Ireland? When buying on Craigslist, expect to offer less than one-half of the original asking price. The more mechanical experience the buyer has, the lower will be the purchase price. Most bikes I've bought off of CL have been procured at a deep deep discount. This happens when I pointed out in person all of the straight-up costly mechanical issues the bike has. Some buyers have basically begged me to take the bikes off of their hands than expose the another buyer to the life-threatening issues I've found.
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Rule of thumb: it's currently a buyer's market. Great for buyers, not-so-great for sellers.
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