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Originally Posted by trailangel
(Post 20582504)
From the title I thought a wheel truing thread, but it's just a "where does a spudtroll live " thread.
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Originally Posted by Koyote
(Post 20582418)
If SpudLives drives a car in addition to cycling, then his claim that "not one" single driver knows about these wonderful laws is an exaggeration.
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I’ve been riding “Idaho Rules” for decades without the discomfort of actually having to live in Idaho. -Kedosto |
Show Up.
OK, how many county, city government meetings have you gone to to,
talk about your issues? eh? |
Originally Posted by fietsbob
(Post 20584257)
OK, how many county, city government meetings have you gone to to,
talk about your issues? |
How in the hell is thread still alive?
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
(Post 20584578)
How in the hell is thread still alive?
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this thread i don't get
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Originally Posted by onyerleft
(Post 20582664)
I don't trust the various rating systems for which areas have the best cycling. This, from a lifetime member of the League of American Wheelme -- whoops, I mean League of American Bicyclists.
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Originally Posted by Flip Flop Rider
(Post 20584837)
this thread i don't get
OP stated the ‘overwhelming’ reason he lives in Idaho is because it is bike friendly but then goes on to state that it isn’t bike friendly. Huh? Did he seriously think that the Idaho stop law alone made it safer/friendlier for cyclists? That’s seems pretty silly. Someone would move to or stay in Idaho just because they made it legal to do the same thing all other cyclists are already doing in other states. Legal or not. Huhza? And wouldn’t it dawn on someone that car drivers might not love the idea of cyclists blowing through stop signs which could in fact create the reverse of a bike friendly environment? :rolleyes: |
Originally Posted by Ironfish653
(Post 20582301)
Must be Texas.
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Originally Posted by SpudLives
(Post 20582282)
I live in the most bike friendly state in the US of A. For one overwhelming reason. What state do I live in? Here’s a hint...it might be the last one you ever thought possible. Here’s another hint. This state has had really progressive bike laws on the books for the last 36 years! REALLY progressive laws. In a state where “progressive” is a swear word. Since I was two years old, this state has had bike policies, by law, that no other state in the entire US of A has ever attempted. Some US cities are trying to copy those laws now. Studies have proven that these laws decrease cyclist vs car incidents and also speed up traffic flow by a large margin. So, where do I live? What state do I live in? Can you guess it? Here is the downside. I live in one of the least progressive states in the US (politically), with a culture that hates cyclists on the road, but boasts the best bike policy imaginable. How many people understand the bike policies here? Zero. They have been in place for 36 years, but not one motorist knows that. I still get folks yelling, “learn the laws” out of their car windows. But... They are actually wrong. 36 years wrong. Where do I live? |
Bike law friendly? Perhaps.
Biker friendly? Excuse me while I get out of this coal that was rolled on me! https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a0b5140559.jpg |
Originally Posted by Tamiya
(Post 20582346)
I hear the potatoes are good in Idaho... :P Potato fact: Potatoes have eyes but they cannot see! https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ac3108cd8a.gif |
Originally Posted by Ridethewestside
(Post 20595078)
Hahahaha
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FWIW, in cities I was in in France, there's often a bike button at the front position at stop lights you can push.
I think the crux of the issue was stated above "eff you, I've got mine". I agree with the libertarian idea here of "practical common sense to manage the efficiency of traffic interactions". One HUGE thing that many motorists just don't get, is that a 2-UP chaingang is actually a courtesy to motorists. Why? If 30 to 40 people are strung out twice as far, you have to wait for twice as big of a gap to pass them all. In a 2-UP arrangement, you have a much better chance of an opening to pass them. But the outrage over this from people is just beyond comprehension. IMHO, it'll never change until you add mandatory driver's test scenarios involving bikes. Not a text question, but pictures and scenarios. I used to get all indignant about motorcycle behavior. But, as a roadie on a bike, I now "get it" a lot more. |
You should try England. It's great. I can jump red lights whenever I like, whilst over the speed limit, and whilst over the drink-drive limit, and still not be breaking the law.
But I don't, because I don't ride on the roads - here in my town we ride on pavements instead. |
Originally Posted by MikeyMK
(Post 20598980)
You should try England. It's great. I can jump red lights whenever I like, whilst over the speed limit, and whilst over the drink-drive limit, and still not be breaking the law.
But I don't, because I don't ride on the roads - here in my town we ride on pavements instead. ;) |
Originally Posted by MikeyMK
(Post 20598980)
You should try England. It's great. I can jump red lights whenever I like, whilst over the speed limit, and whilst over the drink-drive limit, and still not be breaking the law.
But I don't, because I don't ride on the roads - here in my town we ride on pavements instead. Do I have to say "whilst"? Might be a deal-breaker. |
I'm an Anarchist, Anarcho-capitalist to be 100% accurate. I don't respect any of your "laws", let alone petty cycling laws. Motorists don't respect any of your laws, because it's not a crime to break them, it's a statutory. Nobody goes to jail for breaking them.
I live by my own law, if I'm at a red light and nothing is coming I don't stop. Doing as your government tells you leads to the holocaust. Don't be a sheep. |
Originally Posted by Whatnot
(Post 20600686)
I'm an Anarchist, Anarcho-capitalist to be 100% accurate. I don't respect any of your "laws", let alone petty cycling laws. Motorists don't respect any of your laws, because it's not a crime to break them, it's a statutory. Nobody goes to jail for breaking them.
I live by my own law, if I'm at a red light and nothing is coming I don't stop. Doing as your government tells you leads to the holocaust. Don't be a sheep. |
Originally Posted by Whatnot
(Post 20600686)
I'm an Anarchist, Anarcho-capitalist to be 100% accurate. I don't respect any of your "laws", let alone petty cycling laws. Motorists don't respect any of your laws, because it's not a crime to break them, it's a statutory. Nobody goes to jail for breaking them.
I live by my own law, if I'm at a red light and nothing is coming I don't stop. Doing as your government tells you leads to the holocaust. Don't be a sheep. |
Somalia is pretty good too ... for anarchists.
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Originally Posted by Whatnot
(Post 20600686)
I'm an Anarchist, Anarcho-capitalist to be 100% accurate. I don't respect any of your "laws", let alone petty cycling laws. Motorists don't respect any of your laws, because it's not a crime to break them, it's a statutory. Nobody goes to jail for breaking them.
I live by my own law, if I'm at a red light and nothing is coming I don't stop. Doing as your government tells you leads to the holocaust. Don't be a sheep. First they came for the rolling stoppers, and I said nothing because... That's some real tough rebel cred you got going there. Now do "why I cut in line at McDonald's". |
Originally Posted by Sy Reene
(Post 20599268)
Qualitatively, do you consider riding on pavements the same as riding on roads?
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