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What is your favorite source for scientific and technical information relevant to bikes? jimv and bostontrevor cited two sources in their discussion of RR, and these will start the list. This might belong in a different forum, but I want contributions from people like jimv and bt.
Jobst Brandt archives: https://yarchive.net/bike/
Bicycling Science, 3rd ed, David Gordon Wilson.
Jobst Brandt archives: https://yarchive.net/bike/
Bicycling Science, 3rd ed, David Gordon Wilson.
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I believe Jobst Brandt's The Bicycle Wheel contains a good deal of engineering info on our favorite subject.
It's too bad they took down Keith's Rants, because I believe Keith Bontrager had some pretty good engineering info on his site.
It's too bad they took down Keith's Rants, because I believe Keith Bontrager had some pretty good engineering info on his site.
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'metallurgy for the cyclist' is pretty good too, it's posted all over the web https://spokesmanbicycles.com/site/page.cfm?PageID=328
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Bicycling Science : Second Edition
Bicycling Science : Third Edition
by
David Gordon Wilson
lots of technical information and plenty references about almost all aspects of bicycling.
(edit: Sorry! I should have read your post properly. You already mentioned it! )
Bicycling Science : Third Edition
by
David Gordon Wilson
lots of technical information and plenty references about almost all aspects of bicycling.
(edit: Sorry! I should have read your post properly. You already mentioned it! )
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Originally Posted by jrowedc
What is your favorite source for scientific and technical information relevant to bikes? jimv and bostontrevor cited two sources in their discussion of RR, and these will start the list. This might belong in a different forum, but I want contributions from people like jimv and bt.
Jobst Brandt archives: https://yarchive.net/bike/
Bicycling Science, 3rd ed, David Gordon Wilson.
Jobst Brandt archives: https://yarchive.net/bike/
Bicycling Science, 3rd ed, David Gordon Wilson.
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Originally Posted by filtersweep
Sheldon Brown. Jobst can be a blow hard at times... and I think he confuses fact and opinion at times.
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the paterek manual - one stop shopping for framebuilding / geometry / materials / etc info.
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thanks potus - and Happy Birthday if you didn't catch that already.
Is this the book that you started off with in your framebuilding endeavors?
Is this the book that you started off with in your framebuilding endeavors?
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Originally Posted by potus
the paterek manual - one stop shopping for framebuilding / geometry / materials / etc info.
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Originally Posted by [165]
thanks potus - and Happy Birthday if you didn't catch that already.
Is this the book that you started off with in your framebuilding endeavors?
Is this the book that you started off with in your framebuilding endeavors?
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Bicycles & Tricycles : A Classic Treatise on Their Design and Construction - Archibald Sharp
Bike Design: Mike Burrows
Bike Design: Mike Burrows
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truneo that tuned park internal nipple wrench work ??
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Originally Posted by [165]
this is one of the better threads in this joint for quite some time now. thanks.
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I'm partial to Jobst myself. Yes he comes across as a jerk sometimes, but everything I've read from him is well supported by sound theory if not experience. He's an engineer by training and trade and he brings that to his cycling work. I think he's not universally well thought of due to his insistence on slaying some of cycling's sacred cows.
Sheldon, on the other hand, may come across more likeable, but I know there are some cases where he presents opinion as incontrovertable fact, at least in my opinion.
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Shouldn't this be in the mechanic section?
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Nah. It's bigger than that. Mechanics is part of it. Nutrition is part of it. Human power generation is part (which way to the biomechanics/physiology/metabolics forum?). Things like wind resistance, rolling resistance, materials science--those are also parts.
Speaking of nutrition, did you know that booze is the body's favorite energy source right after sugar? Unfortunately, it puts a heavy load on the liver or we could all be having scotch as our sport drink of choice.
Speaking of nutrition, did you know that booze is the body's favorite energy source right after sugar? Unfortunately, it puts a heavy load on the liver or we could all be having scotch as our sport drink of choice.
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Yup - that's why it's so hard to use anything but Jameson as my fuel of choice
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Originally Posted by bostontrevor
Speaking of nutrition, did you know that booze is the body's favorite energy source right after sugar? Unfortunately, it puts a heavy load on the liver or we could all be having scotch as our sport drink of choice.
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Originally Posted by bostontrevor
Nah. It's bigger than that. Mechanics is part of it. Nutrition is part of it. Human power generation is part (which way to the biomechanics/physiology/metabolics forum?).
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Originally Posted by potus
thanks. yea, the common newbie post on the framebuiler's list... hello. I'd like to build a frame, where do I start? -- read the paterek manual
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yikes!! that book cost $90 after shipping. <<SNIP>> (rather put that cash toward new hubs...) can i get this from the library ?
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truneo that tuned park internal nipple wrench work ??
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Originally Posted by EnLaCalle
can i get this from the library ?
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More art/craft than science, but even with having built wheels for 30 years I learned a lot and enjoyed tremendously, Gerd Schraner's "Art of Wheelbuilding." Well worth the price and the reading time.
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Wow, I asked something similar on the mechanics list a couple weeks ago and they just blew it off... probably did not want a mere cyclist knowing all the inner secrets.
My question basically was about the various transitions of the drive train since about the late 70s and the move from freewheels to cassettes and SIS and derailuers. Also the differnent types of derailuers. Was looking for a history/tech head explaination. Sheldon does cover a lot of it... but in brief, and the web is not exactly a great "read," if you know what I mean.
My question basically was about the various transitions of the drive train since about the late 70s and the move from freewheels to cassettes and SIS and derailuers. Also the differnent types of derailuers. Was looking for a history/tech head explaination. Sheldon does cover a lot of it... but in brief, and the web is not exactly a great "read," if you know what I mean.
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Dynamic simulations of bicycle geometry and their effect on stability. Why positive camber? Why trail? Well, you'll see why! (Plus, the answer to why gyroscopic inertia is not a big player in bicycle stability.)
https://www.win.tue.nl/dynamo/bike/bike.html
peace,
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https://www.win.tue.nl/dynamo/bike/bike.html
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Originally Posted by genec
Wow, I asked something similar on the mechanics list a couple weeks ago and they just blew it off... probably did not want a mere cyclist knowing all the inner secrets.