Why are road and TT bikes so expensive?
09-19-20 | 08:59 PM
#151
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I saw a video about The Best Noodle Shop In Japan, which was amazing. 4 different kinds of dried fish go into the broth, which simmers for 4 days or more, Then the chef mixes each day's broth by feel/taste. I might finance THOSE noodles.
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09-21-20 | 09:39 AM
#152
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That's the basic problem - the whole thing came about because EVERYONE, at every level, assumed somebody was "in charge". "They wouldn't let you do it if it was dangerous". That goes from the homebuyers all the way up to the Fed Chairman, but let's be clear here - the farther up the chain you go, the more that person brings in a big salary based on the expectation that they WON'T do something stupid.
Alan Greenspan was like an old grad school classmate of mine: when he talked, he used a lot of big words and sounded confident, so others assumed, well, that he just must have been smarter than the rest of us. As it turned out, he just smoked more dope than the rest of us.
I have precisely as many degrees in economics as does Greenspan, and rarely could make sense of his public pronouncements. I think the Presidents who appointed and reappointed him, and the Senators on the Banking Committee, must have been truly baffled. But they assumed that a guy with those big words and big glasses just must have been smart.
09-21-20 | 11:51 AM
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My current road bike is a Nashbar AL1 that cost $425 new. It's almost all Shimano Soria, which works faultlessly, and I replaced the brakes and rear derailleur with Ultegra. It's a great, fun, nicely handling 21.5 pound bike. I suppose I should be ashamed, but I'm not. I love it.
My Gravel Bike is a sub 18 pound $2500 Carbon Trek and I love it too.
My MTB is a thirty plus year old El Capitan from Yokota, long since gone. Great bike then, great bike now. Heavy as hell.
I've been looking at new Carbon bikes, but I see no reason at present to replace any of these. If I see a good carbon frame with a good package around $1k, I might buy another road bike.
BTW, the $400 AL1 is as good a ride as my old 85 Gios Torino with fully campy, only the brakes and derailleurs are far better, and it cost considerably less. In today's dollars I paid $3k for the Gios.
My Gravel Bike is a sub 18 pound $2500 Carbon Trek and I love it too.
My MTB is a thirty plus year old El Capitan from Yokota, long since gone. Great bike then, great bike now. Heavy as hell.
I've been looking at new Carbon bikes, but I see no reason at present to replace any of these. If I see a good carbon frame with a good package around $1k, I might buy another road bike.
BTW, the $400 AL1 is as good a ride as my old 85 Gios Torino with fully campy, only the brakes and derailleurs are far better, and it cost considerably less. In today's dollars I paid $3k for the Gios.
09-21-20 | 08:24 PM
#156
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So, we now have a seven page urination contest that makes little
sense. Way too many people with way too much time on their hands. Get off the computer and go for a ride!
Cheers,
sense. Way too many people with way too much time on their hands. Get off the computer and go for a ride!
Cheers,
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09-21-20 | 08:59 PM
#157
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