What do you think? Are you a cyclist? Do you encounter these situations as an enthusiast? I found this video very insightful and wanted to share it with you. Enjoy!

I couldn't be bothered watching 12 minutes of video.

Of course he is a "cyclist". Everyone on a bicycle (or trike, or unicycle) is a frigging cyclist. That's like saying people in cars or on motorcycles aren't "motorists".

There are "enthusiast cyclists", just as there are "enthusiast motorists" (and boaters/sailors, whatever).

Trying to redefine words so one can put a wedge in in the usage of a word is boring as hell. It reminds me of most management/leadership books. Utterly primitive.

alloo The video articulates certain ideas and positions I identify with...but it was a bit verbose and slow for my taste (I make TV commercials). I do give the creator props for creating and maintaining a high image quality, mostly through the use of professional stock video sources.

I have biked to work for 28 years for fitness, and like the narrator, people will assume I'm a member of some arbitrary cycling group they concocted in their mind that is anti-car and uber-liberal politically. I, too have had people complain to me about the poor behavior of other cyclists as if we all know each other and are members of a secret organization with a specific agenda.

Unlike the video's creator the phenomenon of being stereotyped is nothing new to me since I am jewish ("Why do you all...?") and my wife and family are black ("Why don't y'all...?").

But I encounter plenty of other people who are impressed by what they perceive as self-discipline (it's really just habit and some tricks to keep me riding daily), and what they perceive as "toughness" in the snow and cold (It's just experience and good planning).

Overall, I enjoyed the video...thanks for sharing!

As others have pointed out, its a well produced video. He probably could have cut the time in half and made the same points.
He is over thinking the situation. We do tend to pigeon hole people, based on some criteria, that is not consistent across society, but hey that is part of being human.

I remember remarking to a friend that a well known celebrity was a cyclist, by his own admission. My friend said, "But does he train?"

I'm short on time, so I'll have to watch the video some other time. But I agree with the above quoted post. Keep in mind however that there are some members here who will insist that unless one has a wardrobe full of lycra, races competitively, has a strict training regimen, owns multiple task-specific bikes (or some combination of the above), one isn't really a "cyclist". In other words, they'll be quick to tell us the average commuter on a bike isn't a real "cyclist".

I'd post the link but it would take awhile to find it.

Since I'd rather ride than watch a twelve minute video, I suppose I am a cyclist.

The subject of what makes a person a cyclist has been beaten to death, then resurrected and beaten to death again, then resurrected again and beaten to death all over again..............

I hope you take the time and can post the link, I’d be interested in reading some actual quotes from posters (not trolls) on here that insist;

“wardrobe full of lycra, races competitively, has a strict training regimen, owns multiple task-specific bikes (or some combination of the above), one isn't really a "cyclist". In other words, they'll be quick to tell us the average commuter on a bike isn't a real "cyclist"

Certainly can relate to the end of the video where people who know you ride unload all their animosity of ill behaved riders since they know I ride a bike. Have also been threatened by idiots in cars purposely passing to close because I must be one of those types.

My identity is certainly not wrapped up in one sport or occupation, but it’s interesting how others like to typecast.

The sad sad thing is the lack of acknowledgement that our hobby is actually doing something positive for ourselves and the environment rather than taking four-wheelers, dirt bikes and ATVs out to pollute and grind the planet.

Now back to the video bashing already in progress (or is it regress?)

I could only manage 5 minutes of the whining and then moved it forward a couple of times. The truth is, unlike the narrator, a person really has to be involved in riding, to endure that video. Non-cyclists would have shut it off after a minute or two.

As far as how people react, I think it all depends on where you live. In communities where there are a lot of active people, and people riding, it is not a big deal. No one I know ever thinks twice about it, or complains. I do consider my self lucky to live in good year round weather and have nearly every road with bikes lanes.

I understand how it would be more hostile is an urban environment or and older community that has no means to expand roadways to accommodate cyclists without doing so at the expense of drivers.

John

I was in Toronto when crackhead Bob was mayor. He was funny.

I will watch the video later but I don't bunch everyone who rides two wheels as cyclists. Some are just bike riders. I am a cyclist and identify as much. My wife does not consider herself as a cyclist but someone who just rides a bicycle occasionally.

At the same time I am not a motorist, I am someone who drives a car and hates every single moment of it.

If you ride a motorcycle, you're a motorcycle rider, if you drive a car, you're a driver. Drive any motorised wheeled vehicle, and you are a motorist. Ride a bicycle (or tricycle or whatever) and you are a cyclist.
If you do it all, you are all of it. It's an umbrella term.
If you hit someone not in or on a vehicle, you're hitting a pedestrian, regardless of whether that person stands still, jogs, sprint, doing yoga, or whatever.

Sometimes I'm a pedestrian, sometimes I am a passenger in or on some vehicle (wheeled or not), sometimes I'm a rower, sometimes I'm a cyclist, sometimes I'm a motorcyclist (one subset of "motorist") and sometimes I'm a car driver (another subset of "motorist").

Cyclist is an umbrella term, so, yes, I sometimes "identify" as such (when I'm on my bikes, mostly). However, there are many subsets of "cyclists", so whether one is commuting, another grocery getting, mountain biking, gravel riding, touring, bike packing, road biking, endurance riding, and a plethora of other subsets, you are still a cyclist. Doing one, more, or all of the different subsets doesn't mean you're not a cyclist.

Look at the laws everwhere. If you're riding a bike (not a moped or motorcycle), you're a cyclist. It is just a word meaning you're on a bicycle (or tricycle or unicycle or whatever).

There is nothing wrong about the term, it is not perjorative other than what some people want it to be when it suits them (context!). The only problem with it, as with all umbrella terms, is that it quickly becomes pretty vague and useless the moment you try to differentiate between different subsets.

Oh, and you ARE a motorist when you drive a car. It doesn't matter if you like driving it. You are still a motorist.

I've seen much more tiresome, whiny inverse snobbery on BF than actual snobbery.

True, that. Most of the judging on this site is from those biased to believe that all riders in cycling kit are snobs. I wish the haters would look at a few GCN videos on YouTube---the ex-pro presenters are clearly just goofy guys who love bikes.

And, as CargoDane says, if you ride a bike, you're a cyclist, period.

I'm a Serious Cyclist™!

I’m a psycholist

acknowledgement is the first step to recovery.

I can’t quite remember why, but I was just thinking about him the other day.

maybe it was when you cracked your head. Bad joke.

I'm actually certified as more of a Serious Cyclist™ than you. I watched a Rapha ad today that was 2 minutes long.

Do you even use a power meter ??...because if you don't then you're just a bike rider.

Nah, those people aren't "serious cyclists". They're "serious trainers" who need "serious equipment" to show themselves and their fellow exercisers how "serious" they train. And nothing can get in the way of their interval training or oxygen uptake, or whatever it is they care about

Ok, but do you master the Rapha Flip?

If you ask the majority of hard-core mtn bikers if they are ‘cyclists’ they would probably ask what you are smoking. Their idea of cyclists are pavement and gravel riders, where their domain is harrowing drops, fording creeks, jumping logs and rocks, climbing to yield fast technical descents. I do both road and mtn and they are completely different disciplines.

The world doesn't have to conform to the lowest common denominator when it comes to understanding things.

Just because they think "cyclist" means a particular type of road cycling doesn't mean that they aren't cyclists. They are on bikes = Bicycles = Bicyclists = cyclists. If they were on three wheels they'd be "tricyclists" = cyclists.

You don't even have to look further than this very site: All types of cycles (uni-, bi-, tri-) here and all types of cyclists, including mountain bikers, road bikers, trike people, At least one cargo tosser (me), commuters, gravel bikers, indoor trainers, and what have you.