Originally Posted by fredlord (Post 22079702)

This is my approach and is the advice I have given my offspring when in traffic as pedestrian, cyclist or driver. My father gave me this advice.

Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 22078724)

Depends.

Originally Posted by 10 Wheels (Post 22078911)

How do you get the Attention of Cell Phone Drivers?
Why do you not Wear Dark Glasses?

Originally Posted by MattTheHat (Post 22079051)

I’m not worried about cell phone users who are coming from the other direction. I’d rather just exercise more caution dealing with oncoming cars than having to look away and shield my eyes from oncoming cyclists with extremely bright flashing headlights. Flashing red light on the back of the bike? Absolutely.

Why no dark glasses? Because I prefer natural light. I just don’t wear them. Especially after dark when flashing headlights are even more dangerous.

Originally Posted by veganbikes (Post 22080462)

If they are driving and on the cell phone they are distracted and choosing to drive like that, If they aren't going to pay attention to the road normally, they don't have plans to pay attention to your strobe if they won't pay attention to a normal light like normal humans use. Also if they do notice your flashing light who is to say they aren't just going to go towards it?
Ahhh yes I should always be wearing dark glass because it is my fault that someone is a roving discotheque lighting circus. I don't generally wear super dark glasses and even still I shouldn't have to wear them to avoid a circus.
It is one thing to strobe/flash in an emergency situation but just doing it in normal riding isn't good.

Originally Posted by aclinjury (Post 22080621)

It's not wrong of you to ask for a new bike. In fact, you should insist on getting a new bike.
Bring your bike back to the LBS and have them check it out, and ask them to write something along the line that the frame has been compromised in such a collision (a very reasonable assumption considerng that a carbon road frame can sustain a crack with a simple fall over). No LBS will risk anything to their customer by saying "the frame is 100% like it was new". Why would any LBS even risk saying such thing when it's in their interest to serve their customers?

And if you were to email Giant say told them that your frame has been in such an accident, and ask them would the warranty still hold, Giant would most likely say NO.

For the insurance company, a bike is a SMALL write-off. Anything write-off under $20k is pretty much automatic, meaning they won't even think about it, the underwriter aint even gonna bother investigation such a small claim.

Originally Posted by Bald Paul (Post 22080211)

Those only help when you realize you're about to crash. :roflmao2:

Originally Posted by cb400bill (Post 22078862)

Please, let's not talk about any details of the accident.

https://www.bikeforums.net/advocacy-...bers-read.html

Originally Posted by mwatt65 (Post 22080821)

Has anyone else had a crash on their bikes first ride?

Originally Posted by davidad (Post 22080595)

Fred. Fred, remember rule number 2.

Originally Posted by Leisesturm (Post 22081058)

That's twice in the same thread! What the bleep is "Rule number 2?!"

Originally Posted by 10 Wheels (Post 22078821)

Sorry for the Crash.
Best to ride with a Bright Strobe light for Day Safety.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...1931fe01dc.jpg

Originally Posted by Paul Barnard (Post 22081224)

Curious lane positioning.

Originally Posted by 10 Wheels (Post 22081227)

6 foot Shoulder Riding behind 5 Trikes.

Originally Posted by jack pot (Post 22079235)

... this is an interesting post because it distorts what the search for the truth is all about. If you get hurt and tell your friends about it, no harm can come from telling your friends (or anyone else) the truth. Regardless of legal issues or lawyer issues the TRUTH is the standard. Lawyers who instruct clients to distort the truth or veil the truth with half lies should not be rewarded or championed. Likewise these same lawyers should not distort the facts to secure more than a "fair" result. I may be pollyanna about this and Ole Tom's point may be well taken by the cynical but people who seek gain by hiding in the crevices of legal shenanigans don't deserve to be rewarded. I think it would be better to say that when one posts an anecdotal experience, that person should bear in mind that there can be consequences for exaggerations and outright lies. Lawyers who mine the internet could just as easily find positivity in honest and forthright post and this should not be discounted. In the OPs case if he reiterates the same story that he will have to tell the LBS and others no possible harm would occur AND there would be the subjective benefit conveyed to all that he had consistently AND WITHOUT HIDING ANYTHING had from the start given an honest accounting:)........................... No disrespect to BF's T memories is intended

Originally Posted by Paul Barnard (Post 22081224)

Curious lane positioning by a guy wearing asphalt colored clothing and burning a light for better visibility.

Originally Posted by 10 Wheels (Post 22081244)

We got Paid $120 a Day to wear that 42 Jersey.

Originally Posted by mwatt65 (Post 22080773)

I took the bike back to the bike shop, they said they couldn't see any damage, I'm going to stick to my guns about wanting a new bike. With my luck the frame would snap exactly after the two year warranty.

Originally Posted by Paul Barnard (Post 22081288)

Money trumps visibility? I remain curious about the lane positioning and how your light would have made a difference with 6 trikes in front of you.

Originally Posted by Cpn_Dunsel (Post 22081238)

"Anything you say can and will be used against you."

Originally Posted by mwatt65 (Post 22080773)

I took the bike back to the bike shop, they said they couldn't see any damage, I'm going to stick to my guns :rolleyes:about wanting a new bike. With my luck the frame would snap exactly after the two year warranty.