Harris cyclery is closing
#101
The margin on cars is not so big so the financial relationship created is where the profit is found.
Dealerships need to move iron to gain factory incentives but the lion share of money is made through service and parts and it is the same for the bike industry.
#102
surly old man

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From: Carlisle, PA
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Lol. Bikes are simple machines and not that hard to understand.
I've perused Sheldon's info numerous times. Nothing earth shattering or ground breaking.
Like it or not...Online purchasing is the way most bikes will be bought in the future. The LBS is the middle man, making the bike cost more than the consumer wants to pay. My current 2 mountain bikes were purchased online sight unseen.
I've perused Sheldon's info numerous times. Nothing earth shattering or ground breaking.
Like it or not...Online purchasing is the way most bikes will be bought in the future. The LBS is the middle man, making the bike cost more than the consumer wants to pay. My current 2 mountain bikes were purchased online sight unseen.
But, that is not really what made him special. He was decent, kind, and funny. That is what made him special for many of us.
I still miss him.
Jim
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#103
Sunshine
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Bikes: '18 class built steel roadbike, '19 Fairlight Secan, '88 Schwinn Premis , Black Mountain Cycles Monstercross V4, '89 Novara Trionfo
But your complaint is just funny since I am confident you arent living your life surrounded by 40 year old tech. Everything has changed and requires new tools/standards for maintenance.
#104
Sunshine
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From: Des Moines, IA
Bikes: '18 class built steel roadbike, '19 Fairlight Secan, '88 Schwinn Premis , Black Mountain Cycles Monstercross V4, '89 Novara Trionfo
What's not so simple is the why? The West is by far the largest consumer of the top-tier Shimano products yet we are the ones constrained by limited supply channels, inflated mark-ups and reduced inventories. I just received a pair of 160mm XTR rotors and 170mm 810 GRX crankset within 2 weeks of order on Ali both of which are unavailable in the local marketplace and for 1/2 the MSRP. Something is seriously wrong here.
Your comments are at least partially just inaccurate.
Ali sold products are circumventing the brand's official supply chain. That is, in part, why they are cheaper.
#105
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Europe has limited supply chains, distributors, reduced inventories, etc. I am not sure why you think the US is alone in that. google 'european supply chain bicycle parts' and you can see recent articles about this citing England, Brussels, Bike Europe, Shimano Europe, etc.
Your comments are at least partially just inaccurate.
Ali sold products are circumventing the brand's official supply chain. That is, in part, why they are cheaper.
Your comments are at least partially just inaccurate.
Ali sold products are circumventing the brand's official supply chain. That is, in part, why they are cheaper.
#106
Sunshine
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From: Des Moines, IA
Bikes: '18 class built steel roadbike, '19 Fairlight Secan, '88 Schwinn Premis , Black Mountain Cycles Monstercross V4, '89 Novara Trionfo
Well 1.3 billion people and most of the wealthiest countries are in the area you are complaining about. Its hardly an isolated issue because its how the supply chains work.
I guess you should just keep hitting up Ali and hoping what ships to you is real/quality. Sounds like the best bet.
#107
SE Wis

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Bikes: '68 Raleigh Sprite, '02 Raleigh C500, '84 Raleigh Gran Prix, '91 Trek 400, 2013 Novara Randonee, 1990 Trek 970
#108
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#109
Times change and methods of doing business does as well. Case in point, my barber went the mobile route during the pandemic and now has a fully equipped mobile shop. I love the convenience, he loves the flexibility and is able to pick up new customers he'd never been exposed to.
#110
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Wow, I have about 30 in within a 10 mile radius. And I only trust one mechanic. Thankfully he opened his own shop after working for others most of his career.
Luckily I build my own wheels and bikes so no need for a shop either. Save a ton of cash too and best QC ever. Yes, I worked as a quality control inspector in a machine shop for 15 years so this bike stuff is a cinch.
Luckily I build my own wheels and bikes so no need for a shop either. Save a ton of cash too and best QC ever. Yes, I worked as a quality control inspector in a machine shop for 15 years so this bike stuff is a cinch.

#111
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Bikes: 1991 Bianchi Eros, 1964 Armstrong, 1988 Diamondback Ascent, 1988 Bianchi Premio, 1987 Bianchi Sport SX, 1980s Raleigh mixte (hers), All-City Space Horse (hers)
I just learned today, after thinking it was about time to buy some more brake pads. I'd always given Harris that business since Sheldon did so much evangelizing for Kool Stops.
Sounds like the Sheldon Brown page is in good hands, though. Hope it continues!
Sounds like the Sheldon Brown page is in good hands, though. Hope it continues!
#112
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From: Spiritwood, Saskatchewan
Bikes: Jeunet 12, Car-Cycle X-4, Aerovironment Charger
#113
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#114
Advocatus Diaboli

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#115
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I can totally understand the appeal of simpler living, simpler technology, etc. Especially when it comes to hobbies.
But your complaint is just funny since I am confident you arent living your life surrounded by 40 year old tech. Everything has changed and requires new tools/standards for maintenance.
But your complaint is just funny since I am confident you arent living your life surrounded by 40 year old tech. Everything has changed and requires new tools/standards for maintenance.
But cycling? Not much wrong with 40 year old tech unless you really care to be bothered. Modern clothing, helmet etc technology probably matters more, but the base forms of those have been around for a while, too.
Cell phones light enough to bring on a ride and having GPS and map database access of course are a game changer... but somewhat orthogonal in that they'd work just as well riding a 100 year old bike as they do on the latest carbon creation.
#117
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From: Florida
Bikes: 1978 Serotta road bike, 2011 Dahon 7-speed
The disappearance of traditional hometown bike shops makes me glad that I'm riding a 1978 steel road bike that's maintainable with simple tools I bought 40 years ago.
#118
#119
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#121
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Eg, I see carbon anything as an anti-feature.
But there are select changes probably worthwhile, for example I could be wrong but I'd guess there are few socket head fasteners on that 1978 model. The normalization of their use is a big win - as is having them all metric.
#122
Member
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From: Florida
Bikes: 1978 Serotta road bike, 2011 Dahon 7-speed
Tools to maintain an old road bike: Park work stand, allen wrenches, crank extractor,13mm flat wrench for centering brake pads on the rims, Brooks saddle wrench, Kiwi mink oil as cheap substitute for Brooks Proofhide, flat wrenches to adjust hub cones, needle-nose pliers to cinch up cables, freewheel removal tool for 5-speed cassette, chain breaker, Zefal frame pump, spare tube, tire patch kit, Campy 8mm t-tool for derailleurs.
#125
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From: Spiritwood, Saskatchewan
Bikes: Jeunet 12, Car-Cycle X-4, Aerovironment Charger
Tools to maintain an old road bike: Park work stand, allen wrenches, crank extractor,13mm flat wrench for centering brake pads on the rims, Brooks saddle wrench, Kiwi mink oil as cheap substitute for Brooks Proofhide, flat wrenches to adjust hub cones, needle-nose pliers to cinch up cables, freewheel removal tool for 5-speed cassette, chain breaker, Zefal frame pump, spare tube, tire patch kit, Campy 8mm t-tool for derailleurs.







