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#26
thye rowing motion is very similar to a snatch lift
To get an idea what its like to effectively row a race, take the hardest stroke you can on a rowing machine take that down about 85-90 percent, then try to do that 220 times in a row without stopping. The only rest you get is during the "recovery phase" and that varies during the course of a race depending on your position.
A 2000 meter race is essentially a 6 minute, all out sprint
Then you have to worryabout blade work. You go in too shallow or to deep there is a good chance that you'll "crab" which at best will stop the speed of your boat, at worse you'll get thrown out of the boat, or suffer some bodily injury.
To get an idea what its like to effectively row a race, take the hardest stroke you can on a rowing machine take that down about 85-90 percent, then try to do that 220 times in a row without stopping. The only rest you get is during the "recovery phase" and that varies during the course of a race depending on your position.
A 2000 meter race is essentially a 6 minute, all out sprint
Then you have to worryabout blade work. You go in too shallow or to deep there is a good chance that you'll "crab" which at best will stop the speed of your boat, at worse you'll get thrown out of the boat, or suffer some bodily injury.
#27
Go out with the local club ride this weekend and grab someone's wheel and get in the paceline. You'll get a couple of mph's without even trying and still have enough energy for some sprints. Also, ask one of the group leaders to watch your peddling technique and position to see if he/she can point out anything. Basically humble yourself - that's what I did when I got into cycling. I thought I knew HOW to ride a bike but it was totally different from those days of riding around on a banana seat.
#28
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Pedalling is a skill. It takes time to develop the appropriate neuromuscular co-ordination necessary to keep the transfer of effort between all the muscles used smooth and properly timed.
Just as, I would imagine, it takes time to co-ordinate the proper timing in the use of back, arm and leg muscles when rowing
Just as, I would imagine, it takes time to co-ordinate the proper timing in the use of back, arm and leg muscles when rowing
#29
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Can't buy speed.
Keep cycling, you'll improve.
Keep cycling, you'll improve.
But working on the engine always shows results, too.
#30
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Originally Posted by SaddleBags
Go out with the local club ride this weekend and grab someone's wheel and get in the paceline...
if you do, at least read this first:
https://www.bikeforums.net/road-cycling/87401-unwritten-rules-group-ride.html
#32
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ha sorry for the belated reply. i've been riding my bike too much! so it wasn't that i had buyers remorse nor that i was too powerful. i was simply too stupid to shift correctly! i love my bike!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and again, i'm an idiot.
#33
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Originally Posted by jonathanrules
ha sorry for the belated reply. i've been riding my bike too much! so it wasn't that i had buyers remorse nor that i was too powerful. i was simply too stupid to shift correctly! i love my bike!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and again, i'm an idiot.
Well at least you figured out what was going on there. Good luck with the riding!
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I've always wondered how shifting can cause so much confusion. How is it possible to shift incorrectly?
Here's a whole article dedicated to not being afraid of shifting: https://www.bfw.org/articles/dontbe.php
New cyclists sometimes ask me if I have any tips for shifting and when they should do it.
Where's the complexity? I'm genuinely curious.
Here's a whole article dedicated to not being afraid of shifting: https://www.bfw.org/articles/dontbe.php
New cyclists sometimes ask me if I have any tips for shifting and when they should do it.
Where's the complexity? I'm genuinely curious.
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Originally Posted by recursive
I've always wondered how shifting can cause so much confusion. How is it possible to shift incorrectly?
Here's a whole article dedicated to not being afraid of shifting: https://www.bfw.org/articles/dontbe.php
New cyclists sometimes ask me if I have any tips for shifting and when they should do it.
Where's the complexity? I'm genuinely curious.
Here's a whole article dedicated to not being afraid of shifting: https://www.bfw.org/articles/dontbe.php
New cyclists sometimes ask me if I have any tips for shifting and when they should do it.
Where's the complexity? I'm genuinely curious.
#37
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Dude, I'm not insulting you, nor am I insulting anyone who is having difficulty with any aspect of cycling, nor am I a bikegod. I was just curious what your difficulty was. My reason for wanting to know is so that I can help people who are experiencing the same problem. No offense intended. Thanks for your answer though. I can understand a new rider having confusion over STI shifters. I had it explained to me too. Sometimes I get the impression that some people are concerned about *when* to shift, so I thought that might be your issue, but it's not.
I did once try to drive a manual car, and pretty much gave up on that.
I did once try to drive a manual car, and pretty much gave up on that.
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Originally Posted by recursive
Dude, I'm not insulting you, nor am I insulting anyone who is having difficulty with any aspect of cycling, nor am I a bikegod. I was just curious what your difficulty was. My reason for wanting to know is so that I can help people who are experiencing the same problem. No offense intended. Thanks for your answer though. I can understand a new rider having confusion over STI shifters. I had it explained to me too. Sometimes I get the impression that some people are concerned about *when* to shift, so I thought that might be your issue, but it's not.
I did once try to drive a manual car, and pretty much gave up on that.
I did once try to drive a manual car, and pretty much gave up on that.
#40
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Originally Posted by cryogenic
sissy!


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Rock on! I had a strong suspicion you'd get the hang of your new bike and start having fun with it. It takes a while to get used to new equipment of any kind, be it breaking in a new pair of shoes or learning your way around a new bike.
Well, as John Muir used to say, "Peace and good roads." Have fun!
Well, as John Muir used to say, "Peace and good roads." Have fun!
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