Headset bearing
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I typed those numbers, from the photo, into my browser and did a search which turned up a gazillion sources for that bearing.
You're not even trying here.
Edited to add: I just noticed that you made TWO identical posts about this. Wouldn't it have been easier to just do a google search for your bearing?
You're not even trying here.
Edited to add: I just noticed that you made TWO identical posts about this. Wouldn't it have been easier to just do a google search for your bearing?
Last edited by Koyote; 01-31-22 at 07:04 AM.
#3
For the most part, bicycle bearings aren't that special. I did a Google search for: "49x7mm bearing 45degree" That is 49 millimeters across, 7 millimeters tall & 45 degree angularity.
Does this look like it?
You might check out the Will-Call window at a local automotive/industrial bearing supply warehouse. The guy behind the counter will likely use a pair of calipers from the top drawer of his desk to measure the original & return in about 5 minutes with an acceptable substitute.
Does this look like it?
You might check out the Will-Call window at a local automotive/industrial bearing supply warehouse. The guy behind the counter will likely use a pair of calipers from the top drawer of his desk to measure the original & return in about 5 minutes with an acceptable substitute.
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Clark W. Griswold




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Bikes: Foundry Chilkoot Ti W/Ultegra Di2, Salsa Timberjack Ti, Cinelli Mash Work RandoCross Fun Time Machine, 1x9 XT Parts Hybrid, Co-Motion Cascadia, Specialized Langster, Phil Wood Apple VeloXS Frame (w/DA 7400), R+M Supercharger2 Rohloff, Habanero Ti 26
#7
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Bikes: 2019 Specialized Diverge, 2021 Cervelo Caledonia
I'm sympathizing with the OP. I have a Specialized Diverge that needs new headset bearings. I first asked my LBS about this in July and they said bearings for my bike were on back-order. They would let me know when they had the bearings. I've ckecked back from time to time. Still on back-order. I also emailed Specialized in December. They told me back orders would be shipping in January. I'm still riding the bike, but the steering has some rough spots. The OP is one up on me, as I haven't disassembled the headset. I'm just waiting (ever less patiently) for my LBS to do the job. It's been six months now. My thought when I bought the bike is: I'll ride it, and have my LBS maintain it, but that's not happening in this case anyway. Should I consider trying to do this myself, or would I just be likely to bring a bunch of parts to the LBS to have them reassemble the bike?
#8
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Not hard for me to believe. My Diverge (see the post just above) is a 2019 and I started noticing the problem when I'd had the bike about two years (and about 10,000 miles). I don't know how long headset bearings typically last, but I noticed the issue after about the same amount of time as the OP.
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Nobody said the part in question was of higher price, the bike maybe but the actual headsets that Specialized uses and other manufacturers use isn't always of high quality. Sometimes yes but sometimes not really it is a good place to save money because as long as the thing turns right nobody would really notice it. Specialized has not been a company to focus on headsets and has had past issues but they are bearings, bearings a replaceable item and a common one at that.
#10
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Specialized makes no headsets. Tange has made them for a long time; I have Specialized threaded headsets from the early 90’s. Well more accurately, Tange merely stamps Specialized on a Tange product.
John
John
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It's the bottom bearing that's tired out. I serviced my heqdset and the bearing was noticeably rough when turning by hand. Once it's back in the headset it spins fine but the rough noise is amplified through the handle bars. I don't think it affects the steering at the moment so may just keep it in there until it affects the handling.
I've only had it a year but where I live it's rather dusty and when I took the bearing out it was extremely gritty. I believe if you rode just for a month through such conditions it would enough to contaminate the bearings.
I've only had it a year but where I live it's rather dusty and when I took the bearing out it was extremely gritty. I believe if you rode just for a month through such conditions it would enough to contaminate the bearings.
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I typed those numbers, from the photo, into my browser and did a search which turned up a gazillion sources for that bearing.
You're not even trying here.
Edited to add: I just noticed that you made TWO identical posts about this. Wouldn't it have been easier to just do a google search for your bearing?
You're not even trying here.
Edited to add: I just noticed that you made TWO identical posts about this. Wouldn't it have been easier to just do a google search for your bearing?
Likely an accident
#14
Dont fix whats not broken

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Here's a non-time waster - from an effortless google search: https://365cycles.com/collections/he...tainless-1-1-8, as well as a UK source: https://www.totalcycling.com/en/FSA-...g/m-21231.aspx
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Thanks. I rang Specialized and for anyones future reference the bearings for the Specialized allez are:
upper: MH-P08F
lower: MH-P21
The upper bearing apparently is the only on the market with a small inner lip, any other bearing with the same measurements wont fit.
upper: MH-P08F
lower: MH-P21
The upper bearing apparently is the only on the market with a small inner lip, any other bearing with the same measurements wont fit.
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Thanks. I rang Specialized and for anyones future reference the bearings for the Specialized allez are:
upper: MH-P08F
lower: MH-P21
The upper bearing apparently is the only on the market with a small inner lip, any other bearing with the same measurements wont fit.
upper: MH-P08F
lower: MH-P21
The upper bearing apparently is the only on the market with a small inner lip, any other bearing with the same measurements wont fit.
That is really all you need. There is nothing special(ized) about those bearings. I’m pretty skeptical that the bearing industry decided to manufacture a proprietary bicycle mfg spec.
Now just search for those and you’re set.
John
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I have some sympathy with the OP as well. If you don't know what those numbers mean they're pretty darned confusing. It's all very well typing numbers into Google, but if it comes up with a number of options, none of which is stamped exactly the same as the one in your hands, how do you know which is correct. I've had exactly the same issue.
By the way, I was somewhat skeptical about that top bearing too, but then I came across this. So it looks like Specialized really do use a fairly unusual bearing.
By the way, I was somewhat skeptical about that top bearing too, but then I came across this. So it looks like Specialized really do use a fairly unusual bearing.
#19
Thanks. I rang Specialized and for anyones future reference the bearings for the Specialized allez are:
upper: MH-P08F
lower: MH-P21
The upper bearing apparently is the only on the market with a small inner lip, any other bearing with the same measurements wont fit.
upper: MH-P08F
lower: MH-P21
The upper bearing apparently is the only on the market with a small inner lip, any other bearing with the same measurements wont fit.
#22
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So why didn't you just order it and be done with it? Sometimes I don't understand why people think their LBS is not a viable parts source, especially for what seems to be a proprietary part...
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Correct me if I'm wrong but I think £40 is pretty steep for a single bearing. Wouldn't you want to shop around?
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Sure, shop around all you want, if it were my bike that money is not excessive, and I'd be surprised if the cost you got from the shop doesn't include install. Prices (and I am sure quality) of that bearing ID are all over the place (I saw it as low as $7). Hopefully your cheaper option holds up over time. It would have been nice to know you already had a source at your LBS, details like that help the people on here trying to help you. Best of luck with your headset.



