Toe clip grease?
04-16-22, 08:51 PM
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I would guess that they will be called clip-in or clip pedals as time goes on.
I do agree that the term “clipless” as well as “ brifter” will disappear as generations move along. Having to explain the term to a younger generation will basically eliminate it.
Like the term hardtop convertible from the 50’s. The time it takes to explain what the term means is not worth it. Of course that term was short lived as the 60’s eliminated the convertible part.
Then again, trying to explain what a hardtop is to 20 somethings today is probably just as tough.
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I do agree that the term “clipless” as well as “ brifter” will disappear as generations move along. Having to explain the term to a younger generation will basically eliminate it.
Like the term hardtop convertible from the 50’s. The time it takes to explain what the term means is not worth it. Of course that term was short lived as the 60’s eliminated the convertible part.
Then again, trying to explain what a hardtop is to 20 somethings today is probably just as tough.
John
04-17-22, 01:06 AM
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The real problem is the toeclip. How silly was it to call something a clip when it doesn’t even clip? Wouldn’t toecinch have been a lot better? Toebasket? God knows how many young, naive cyclists were cast into confusion by the inappropriately named toeclip, but we’re not gonna undo that now and still use the term without any examination of its suitability.
It seems toeclips were still pretty common 20 years ago, maybe even 15 years ago, as in standard fare on midrange road and MTBs. If had to guess, I’d say it was the inexpensive, pinned platform pedal which served up the final blow to toeclip, which though diminished by clipless (particularly SPD from what, ‘90?), still had a market segment.
The big winner in all this is toestrap, of course, despite being more accurately a footstrap, lives on as essential piece of kit for both drop- and flatbar hydraulic bleeds! What a clever repurposing of the humble archbelt! Clipcinch? Toebasketbelt?
It seems toeclips were still pretty common 20 years ago, maybe even 15 years ago, as in standard fare on midrange road and MTBs. If had to guess, I’d say it was the inexpensive, pinned platform pedal which served up the final blow to toeclip, which though diminished by clipless (particularly SPD from what, ‘90?), still had a market segment.
The big winner in all this is toestrap, of course, despite being more accurately a footstrap, lives on as essential piece of kit for both drop- and flatbar hydraulic bleeds! What a clever repurposing of the humble archbelt! Clipcinch? Toebasketbelt?
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Like the term hardtop convertible from the 50’s. The time it takes to explain what the term means is not worth it. Of course that term was short lived as the 60’s eliminated the convertible part.
Then again, trying to explain what a hardtop is to 20 somethings today is probably just as tough.
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04-17-22, 09:22 AM
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Don’t forget that Jeep has been doing hardtops for decades and the new Bronco offers similar, or that Corvette, Porsche 911, Miata, and a couple of Ferrari models offer power retractable hardtops currently, and until about 2 years ago, classic power retractable hardtops were staples of both Mercedes and BMW lineups. I’d also think that the current manual hardtops like Lamborghini or McLaren would be comprehensible to 20-somethings, even though they’re not the target market. Were 20-somethings the target market in the ‘50s?!?
And if you missed your chance in the 60’s, you got a second chance in the late 80’s/early 90’s.
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I've been using "clipless" pedals for about 25 or 30 years and have ridden road bikes since the early 70s, so I know what preceded the term "clipless" and understand why it was used .... at first. I still don't like the term, it's just stupid. If you have to explain to someone why a totally illogical word only finds logic when compared to technology that is several decades out of use, it's stupid. I doubt if 5% of current users of "clipless" pedals call them clipless or even know what that means. Even serious cyclists. I mean, you'd not only have to be in your mid 60s or older, you'd also would have had to be into serious cycling 40 years ago. I've heard them called "clip-in" pedals more than I've heard them called clipless.
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