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Backpack
This might be in the wrong forum but curious on what people are using as a backpack going around town and/or short, medium ride? With my kids being older and love riding, we are traveling longer between rides. Last weekend we ended up riding across town to the library but couldn't bring books since I didn't bring a backpack etc. Just looking for a light riding backpack to put a few items in when out with the little ones.
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For short rides, a backpack is fine, but longer rides, it may be uncomfortable, maybe even painful, because of being hunched over with weight on your back. For general cargo, you do not need a bike specific pack. Any pack will do, it helps if it has a waist belt, to keep it from swaying.
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Great thank you for the advice
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I've used a Timbuk2 messenger bag for years, but you might prefer two shoulder straps for stability. REI has a whole slew of cycling-specific backpacks, but for the kind of use you're talking about I'd just use a basic school backpack.
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A backpack can get uncomfortably hot on longer / faster rides or during the hotter months.
A messenger bag is slightly better because you can slung it lower, giving better cooling. Best option for me is rear rack and pannier bag. You can even tie up a backpack to a rear rack. A backpack is only good if all rides are easy rides and it never gets too hot. |
No real specific pack to recommend, but some features to look for;. I don't have a specific cycling pack, just a few multi-purpose ones.
A sternum strap (on the front, between the load straps) is more useful than a waist belt, which ends up under your ribs if you ride leaning forward at all. A sternum strap will draw the load straps together in the front, causing less interference with your arms reaching forward to the bars. Look for a bag with wide, flat, thinly padded straps; a thick pad is good if you're standing up straight, but if you're leaning forward and reaching forward to the bars, your arms have to push it out of the way. |
Just about any backpack that allows you to set the straps rather long will work with the hunched over position.
As for heat, most brands of hydration backpacks have mesh materials as well as an "air channel" down the middle. Most mountain bikers abandoned bottles in favor of hydration backpacks years ago. You can choose a model with more or less storage capacity, and any of them will have a good capacity if you take the bladder out. I actually use ours for theme parks as well as mountain biking because of how it doesn't make my back sweat too much. |
When looking for backpacks look for well known brand names such as: Camelbak, Deuter, Osprey, North face, etc etc. There are many good small sized packs out there to choose from those brands. Yes they can get a little hot and uncomfortable but it doesn't bother me. I have done 100 mile rides on hot summer days with a backpack weighing around 15 - 18 pounds.
One thing to avoid is messenger bags, because they are uncomfortable while carrying any amount of weight. In the cycling community messenger bags are just a fashion statement, with absolutely no practical advantages over a good backpack. |
Any thought of simply a rear rack? Keeping your back free will not only keep you more comfortable, but will let you stay flexible enough to twist quickly to check on your kiddos when needed. This would also let you strap on a soft sided cooler for day trips to the parks.
just a thought. |
I rack my pack like this:
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
(Post 22472956)
One thing to avoid is messenger bags, because they are uncomfortable while carrying any amount of weight.
Originally Posted by wolfchild
(Post 22472956)
In the cycling community messenger bags are just a fashion statement, with absolutely no practical advantages over a good backpack.
This pseudo-iconoclast schtick of yours is the real fashion statement. |
Wally World
http://i.imgur.com/sUvPELyl.jpg less than $20. Holds plenty. I've been wearing small backpacks since the 80s. Not for the speed inclined. |
I use a Camelback Lobo which is quite small. Unless I am on a MTB I take out the water bladder and carry a pump and tube in that space. It does have a pump pocket on the side for when I have the bladder in. Its a super handy backpack and very compact.
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If you are starting to go on longer rides might I suggest using a trunk bag to get weight off your back. As for a pack something like a Dueter Race pack might be ideal as it is a 14 litre and includes a zipper that will expand the pack by three litres. Additionally has a pouch for a bladder in case you ever decide to go on even longer rides.
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I use both a messenger bag and small backpack, primarily for going to the gym these days. It's 10 miles each way and I find it satisfactory. I'd rather to that than start adding racks. If more than 10 miles I might look at other solutions.
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Originally Posted by Rolla
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I've used a Timbuk2 messenger bag for years, but you might prefer two shoulder straps for stability. REI has a whole slew of cycling-specific backpacks, but for the kind of use you're talking about I'd just use a basic school backpack.
Some in this thread may urge you to put racks and bags on your bike, but that's a bit overkill for your scenario. Though I will say that a simple (and inexpensive) basket is great, if your bike will accommodate it. |
Osprey Talon 22. Big enough to hold stuff, but not too big. Low profile, mesh back panel w/ air space (most important). Helmet holder. Mesh outer pocket for wet stuff. High vis color- not too grody looking after a few years. A bit more waist belt than needed for riding, but good when hiking..
Osprey has the whole range- they have it all figured out. |
Originally Posted by Rolla
(Post 22473170)
Predictably, actual real-world experience disproves this assertion.
Again, history and experience proves otherwise. Advantages include being able to add/remove items from the bag without taking it off, as well as the ability to one-handedly tighten or loosen the shoulder strap while riding. This pseudo-iconoclast schtick of yours is the real fashion statement. |
Originally Posted by Rolla
(Post 22473170)
Advantages include being able to add/remove items from the bag without taking it off, as well as the ability to one-handedly tighten or loosen the shoulder strap while riding. . |
Originally Posted by Rolla
(Post 22473170)
Predictably, actual real-world experience disproves this assertion.
Again, history and experience proves otherwise. Advantages include being able to add/remove items from the bag without taking it off, as well as the ability to one-handedly tighten or loosen the shoulder strap while riding. This pseudo-iconoclast schtick of yours is the real fashion statement. Messenger bags: every bit as practical as riding a brakeless fixie with 12" handlebars in traffic. |
I use a regular school backpack
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
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I am not making assertions... I speak from real world experience.
Originally Posted by wolfchild
(Post 22473243)
Even the more expensive higher quality messenger bags which have stabilizing straps will never be as comfortable as a backpack with two shoulder straps.
Originally Posted by wolfchild
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That only applies to pro bike messengers who deliver 200 packages per day
You continue conflate your opinions with facts, a classic characteristic of immature thinking. |
Originally Posted by woodcraft
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Messenger bags: every bit as practical as riding a brakeless fixie with 12" handlebars in traffic.
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Originally Posted by Rolla
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I'm skeptical about your "real world experience." Your credibility is about nil around here.
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Originally Posted by wolfchild
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I also own 3 different roll-top back packs and I also own a camelbak. The messenger bag is by far the most uncomfortable and impractical of them all..
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Many years ago I used a backpack to carry books for a couple of miles. Then I got a rear rack and panniers, and gave up the backpack except for short rides on a bike without racks or a front bag. Backpacks tend to raise the center of gravity, and are tiring. However, if I am going to the store,,I sometimes carry a very light weight pack made of ripstop nylon, in which I put light bulky things like paper towels.that would otherwise take up too much room in my handlebar or saddle bags..
If I really wanted to use a backpack often, I'd consider the Osprey bags. |
OP asked for a simple backpack recommendation for schlepping a few library books now and then, and it turns into an argument over backpacks vs messenger bags vs panniers vs...I dunno, maybe surgically-implanted marsupial pouches are next?
Classic bf. |
My suggestion is to go to REI (as suggested above) if one is convenient. You can try various bags as they will weight it down for you so you can assess comfort. One thing I will warn you about regarding roll top bags is that SOME can impede your ability to look backward, even with a helmet or eye glass mirror.
BTW...I own and use back packs and messenger bags. Messenger bags, FOR ME, are somewhat uncomfortable off the bike, but very comfortable while riding a road bike. I've never tried either with my hybrid (upright positioning) because it has a rack which I utilize. The quality of the backpack or messenger bag is also crucial. Osprey makes great backpacks. I tried a Timbuk 2 messenger bag and didn't like riding with it. It's now my bombproof attaché bag for work. I use a Chrome messenger bag which is great for me. |
I almost hate to get involved (for fear of getting dragged into the "cat fight") but it's too cold and rainy today for a bike ride, so WTH, I'm in ;). I'm not a huge fan of riding with a backpack (but frequently ride with a very "Fredish" fanny pack :D). However, with fuel prices the way they are, I'm more and more inclined to take a bike for in-town shopping trips. I do have a biking specific backpack (never used) and a messenger-type bike bag (also never used) :foo:. What I'll likely use and I guess recommend, is a teardrop style pack with a single padded strap that snaps into either side of the base of the pack. I guess sort of a cross between a true backpack and a messenger bag. The beauty being it can be worn on one's back while riding then worn across one's chest while shopping or just walking around sight seeing. Comfortable in both modes. Depending on the shopping area, might be a security plus!
Another thought for the OP. It was stated that the kids are now "older". Perhaps THEY can have their own small backpacks to carry their books home from the library! |
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