Stranded with a flat
#52
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To answer the OP, the more you carry the more mishaps you are prepared for, but stuff happens. Before I went tubeless, I carried 2 tubes, 1 patch kit, 2 CO2 cartridges, and 1 mini pump. The tubes and cartridges were to get me rolling quickly even if I punctured both tires with the same obstruction. The rest was so that I could get myself home if more than 2 flats happened (which did sometimes). I've had pumps fail, tubes fail, and CO2 inflators fail. So, I carry my phone as well.
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#55
Happy With My Bikes


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Road riding out in the sticks, I carry a tube, patch kit, inflator, frame pump and tire levers. The neighborhood, in town or the MUP on a vintage bike, I don't give a crap. Worst that can happen is I sit and drink coffee until my wife gets there.
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#56
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If I am going to be on closed roads and rescues will be impossible and phone reception is null, I will carry a spare tire and use SPD pedals/cleats.
There are some mountain roads in SoCal where you have to be prepared for a possible long hike down a mountain.
There are some mountain roads in SoCal where you have to be prepared for a possible long hike down a mountain.
#57
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and big cats.
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#58
Wheelman
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Bikes: 1982 Holdsworth Avanti (531), 1961 Holdsworth Cyclone, 1953 Holdsworth Whirlwind
I posed a question with that idea and didn't get a definitive answer because none of the responders had tried it. How well does that work? I figured if sealant instantly plugs a hole in tubeless tires, would it work for tubulars as well? I love the ride quality of tubulars, and they don't sound like any more of a pain to replace than tubeless.
I put some Vittoria Rubino 28mm on and got a flat after 93 miles: 1.5mm glass shard in front tyre.
Did some research and put some Orange Seal in it, spun the wheel, and put some air in.
A few drops spurted out of the hole, but it sealed after about 2 secs.
I've done about 900 miles since then and haven't had any pressure drops, so either it's working very well
or it's had nothing to do.
#59
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Seems to work fine.
I put some Vittoria Rubino 28mm on and got a flat after 93 miles: 1.5mm glass shard in front tyre.
Did some research and put some Orange Seal in it, spun the wheel, and put some air in.
A few drops spurted out of the hole, but it sealed after about 2 secs.
I've done about 900 miles since then and haven't had any pressure drops, so either it's working very well
or it's had nothing to do.
I put some Vittoria Rubino 28mm on and got a flat after 93 miles: 1.5mm glass shard in front tyre.
Did some research and put some Orange Seal in it, spun the wheel, and put some air in.
A few drops spurted out of the hole, but it sealed after about 2 secs.
I've done about 900 miles since then and haven't had any pressure drops, so either it's working very well
or it's had nothing to do.
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#60
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From: Putney, London UK
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Definitely better than the Tufo S33 Pro I tried when I first got tubular rims.
Vittoria seem to do Rubino in all configurations: https://www.vittoria.com/ww/en/tyres...res/rubino-pro
And they're fairly cheap in the UK: £35 https://www.merlincycles.com/vittori...0c-140868.html
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No flat repair?! Will they put on my spare? Where have the service industries gone these days?!
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#63
rebmeM roineS

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From: Metro Indy, IN
Bikes: Bacchetta Giro A20, RANS V-Rex, RANS Screamer
I carry two tubes when I ride but that’s because all 3 bikes I ride (2 singles and a tandem) have 20”/406 F and 26”/559 R wheels. Emergency kit includes a Road Morph pump and self-adhesive patches. Very few flats due to good luck and tires with anti-puncture features. Did suffer a pinch flat with sidewall damage a few months ago - wasn’t paying attention and hit a nasty spot of concrete road surface decay that I knew about in a nearby neighborhood.
Not expecting spouse’s e-assist Trek to flat since putting new tires on it - Schwalbe Marathon e-Plus which seem way over the top.
Not expecting spouse’s e-assist Trek to flat since putting new tires on it - Schwalbe Marathon e-Plus which seem way over the top.
#64
I posed a question with that idea and didn't get a definitive answer because none of the responders had tried it. How well does that work? I figured if sealant instantly plugs a hole in tubeless tires, would it work for tubulars as well? I love the ride quality of tubulars, and they don't sound like any more of a pain to replace than tubeless.
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#66
I run Tubolito X Gravel TPU tubes and while they are thicker than normal TPU tubes they are very flat resistant.. I carry one extra tube in my saddle bag along with a patch kit. I also carry tire levers, one Co2 cartridge and have a small frame pump..
I assume Lyft or Uber (never used either) might pick you up if you put in the notes section (if they have one) that you have a bike that also needs to be transported.. I say if you think you might need their service to contact either company and ask if that's something they'd even do..
I assume Lyft or Uber (never used either) might pick you up if you put in the notes section (if they have one) that you have a bike that also needs to be transported.. I say if you think you might need their service to contact either company and ask if that's something they'd even do..
#67
Yes, which was why I had asked that question before proceeding... because I wasn't sure if sealant would seal up punctures in the (usually latex) tubes very well. That makes sense that the Tufos would seal up more like tubeless, although I never liked the ride quality of those. The Rubinos Aardwolf mentioned don't say which type of tube they use (the description is obviously recycled from their clincher tire, mentioning a folding bead), but I suspect they use butyl at that price point.
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#69
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From my years living in Arizona I still carry two tubes AND a Rema patch kit and a Park self-sticky tire patch in my seat bag. I've not had more than two flats on a ride but I knew plenty of people in AZ that more than two. Two tubes is pretty standard out there. I'm back in North Carolina now but I still carry that kit in my bag.
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- Do you carry more than 1 spare tube? - Carry no tube
- Do you carry a patch kit? - Yes with Vulcanizing Cement and Super Glue
- Will Uber pick up you and the bike? - Yes but, $$$$$$$
- Do you carry a patch kit? - Yes with Vulcanizing Cement and Super Glue
- Will Uber pick up you and the bike? - Yes but, $$$$$$$
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#74
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Yes, which was why I had asked that question before proceeding... because I wasn't sure if sealant would seal up punctures in the (usually latex) tubes very well. That makes sense that the Tufos would seal up more like tubeless, although I never liked the ride quality of those. The Rubinos Aardwolf mentioned don't say which type of tube they use (the description is obviously recycled from their clincher tire, mentioning a folding bead), but I suspect they use butyl at that price point.
https://www.slowtwitch.com/Products/...rt_1_4147.html
https://www.slowtwitch.com/Products/...rt_2_4155.html
He tested road clinchers with tubes (both latex and butyl).
It's a good read.
#75
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Here's the research I looked at when I picked Orange Seal to put in my tubular tyres:
https://www.slowtwitch.com/Products/...rt_1_4147.html
https://www.slowtwitch.com/Products/...rt_2_4155.html
He tested road clinchers with tubes (both latex and butyl).
It's a good read.
https://www.slowtwitch.com/Products/...rt_1_4147.html
https://www.slowtwitch.com/Products/...rt_2_4155.html
He tested road clinchers with tubes (both latex and butyl).
It's a good read.
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