Beware of scam sites
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Beware of scam sites
I recently stumbled on this site which showed prices too good to be true: thebike-shops dot com
They seem to have copied over the Condor cycles web interface and product line, with ridiculous prices in many cases.
Their contact page lists the following address:
Google street view does not seem to show anything legitimate there.
The only other contact info is the admin email (admin at keenonlineshop.com) which a quick google search reveals as the root of multiple scam e-commerce sites around the web.
I placed an inquiry with the official Condor Cycles folks in the UK (https://www.condorcycles.com/) and got this reply:
Just wanted to share this info so others don't get tripped up.
They seem to have copied over the Condor cycles web interface and product line, with ridiculous prices in many cases.
Their contact page lists the following address:
24020 Reese Road
Anchorage AK, United States (US)
99567
Anchorage AK, United States (US)
99567
The only other contact info is the admin email (admin at keenonlineshop.com) which a quick google search reveals as the root of multiple scam e-commerce sites around the web.
I placed an inquiry with the official Condor Cycles folks in the UK (https://www.condorcycles.com/) and got this reply:
Thank you for getting in touch, sadly we are all too aware of this company as they are a Scam site and not connected to us in anyway. We are trying to get this closed down but as usual in these instance it is virtually impossible.
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Good info!
I like this was at least this was a warning and not a this site looks really super sketchy but I want to buy from it should I do that? Which is a common thread around here. It is always simple buy from an authorized retailer with a proper brick and mortar location. If the price is too good to be true it is too good to be true and there is no need to get into the headaches of scams just to save a couple bucks on some random part.
I like this was at least this was a warning and not a this site looks really super sketchy but I want to buy from it should I do that? Which is a common thread around here. It is always simple buy from an authorized retailer with a proper brick and mortar location. If the price is too good to be true it is too good to be true and there is no need to get into the headaches of scams just to save a couple bucks on some random part.
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I found there are a ton of scam sites that are linked to google. I mean I bought a tub of protein powder from one and it was fake got a refund from PayPal but still. not sure if they are just generated as needed when a product is searched for. .
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Happens, Glory Cycles in Greenville SC went out of business in September, another site using their name popped up with stupid obviously fake prices.
Could only be found using google search.
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Could only be found using google search.
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Just for comparison, I searched Zipp wheels last night. Found a site that was listing prices for a set of 303s at $600 with a sale price of $98. NFW that's legit. The site looks like it's straight from Zipp, but if you go to the Sram site, they link to Zipp and it's completely different.
thezippstore dot com/zipp-gravel-cyclocross-wheels-303-nsw-carbon-wheel-tubeless/
thezippstore dot com/zipp-gravel-cyclocross-wheels-303-nsw-carbon-wheel-tubeless/
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I'm not sure we need to be posting links to scammers websites for them. They pay people to do that
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Just for comparison, I searched Zipp wheels last night. Found a site that was listing prices for a set of 303s at $600 with a sale price of $98. NFW that's legit. The site looks like it's straight from Zipp, but if you go to the Sram site, they link to Zipp and it's completely different.
thezippstore dot com/zipp-gravel-cyclocross-wheels-303-nsw-carbon-wheel-tubeless/
thezippstore dot com/zipp-gravel-cyclocross-wheels-303-nsw-carbon-wheel-tubeless/
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Posting fake websites with ridiculously low prices is the current favorite among scammers. If you were to go into it you'd either see a fake 'order form' where you'd enter your info and submit, and the scammers get your CC numbers they can use for a few days to purchase stuff or get cash advances. There's a more sophisticated one where they use legitimate 'back-office' processing companies (they do all the boring data,credit card, and verification for retailers) where the scammers have infiltrated those companies so they can download your CC numbers and other vital info to use themselves or sell on the dark web. If it seems fake, it probably is, so call the company (if they list a phone #) or just pay a few more $$ to a legit company for the product.
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The question/concern comes up often as more and more scam sites are created. Here's a test that you can apply. I don't do business if they raise any red flags.
Phone Number: Is there a phone number prominently displayed on their home page. Red Flag if there is not.
Address: Do they have a physical address posted? If not Red Flag. If they do have an address, what does it look like on Google street view or satellite map? Red Flag if it doesn't look like a business.
Inventory: Do they have a lot of hard to find stuff or too good to be true pricing? Red Flag if they do.
Business History: When you Google the business name with the words review and complaint, what do you find? Little footprint or a lot of negative reviews or BBB complaints is a red flag.
Payment Method: Crypto, Venmo, Pay Pal friends and family only? Red Flag.
Site Language: Do you notice language errors or irregularities? Red Flag if there are errors and oddities.
Phone Number: Is there a phone number prominently displayed on their home page. Red Flag if there is not.
Address: Do they have a physical address posted? If not Red Flag. If they do have an address, what does it look like on Google street view or satellite map? Red Flag if it doesn't look like a business.
Inventory: Do they have a lot of hard to find stuff or too good to be true pricing? Red Flag if they do.
Business History: When you Google the business name with the words review and complaint, what do you find? Little footprint or a lot of negative reviews or BBB complaints is a red flag.
Payment Method: Crypto, Venmo, Pay Pal friends and family only? Red Flag.
Site Language: Do you notice language errors or irregularities? Red Flag if there are errors and oddities.
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Not really sure it's such a bad thing to post these links in a thread titled "beware of scam sites". I'm pretty sure they're not paying people to warn potential victims about fraudulent charges. If anything, we should have a sticky listing all the bogus sites.
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Well, people spend actual money to pay people to post links here and it has nothing to do with hoping anyone will click on them most of the time. I'm breaking the links, people can figure out how to look at the sites if they feel motivated enough. There are tons of scam sites now for every little bike related business. I'm sure they go after other niche areas as well, but I have seen it a lot for things that seem like it just wouldn't be worth their time. I guess bike parts are in the sweet spot where you can offer huge discounts and still get a decent amount of money from the people you are scamming.
I don't mind if people give the name scam website if they feel the need. Please don't make me edit it to break the link.
I don't mind if people give the name scam website if they feel the need. Please don't make me edit it to break the link.
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