Originally Posted by Highcad (Post 22812821)

7. Don't be a dick about it.

When I think about this forum, this is my first thought. It's full of snarky a-holes. I belong to other (hobby type) sports forums - and they aren't like this. As I write this, I fully expect a snarky reply.

Originally Posted by PeteHski (Post 22807179)

We all know BF is full of contrasting opinions and debate, which is what makes it interesting and offers opportunities to learn new things and alternative perspectives. There is a huge knowledge base out there that can be tapped into if only we have an open-mind and are prepared to listen as well as talk. But the whole collective learning experience depends on everyone observing a few general guidelines:-

1. If you are not a recognised expert in a particular subject under debate then it's a good idea to do more listening and less arguing/asserting your own opinion as fact.

2. Be brave enough to admit when you are wrong. It's just a forum, so there's no need to be embarrassed or try to dig yourself out. We are all sometimes wrong and that's when we have an opportunity to learn the most.

3. When you are not 100% sure of something you are about to say then either a) say it with the proviso that you are not sure or b) don't say it at all. Never state your opinion as a fact unless you are 100% sure it is actually a fact.

4. Don't continue to argue a point of fact unless you can actually back it up with some factual evidence from a recognised source of expertise.

5. Don't move the goalposts around in an effort "not to be proven wrong" when you are losing an argument. Everyone can see what you did and you lose respect.

6. When evidence is presented in direct opposition to your own opinion, it is a not a good idea to re-quote that same evidence as if it does actually support your own opposing view. Again everyone sees it and you lose respect. If you do have genuine, credible evidence to the contrary then present that instead.

7. Don't be a dick about it.

Originally Posted by Trakhak (Post 22812836)

My (charitable) hypothesis is that most other sports aren't as seasonal as cycling. Cabin fever in cyclists seems to induce inordinate levels of testosterone.

Originally Posted by Highcad (Post 22812821)

7. Don't be a dick about it.

When I think about this forum, this is my first thought. It's full of snarky a-holes. I belong to other (hobby type) sports forums - and they aren't like this. As I write this, I fully expect a snarky reply.

Originally Posted by GhostRider62 (Post 22812828)

Some guy named Filippo Ganna uses clinchers to go fast. Imagine if he used tubulars.

My 1972 Masi GC has a very nice set of them along with period correct accouterments. The bike is slow and uncomfortable compared to my aerodynamic carbon fibre bike with disk brakes, Firecrest 303 with 32 mm tubeless and a saddle made by a 3D printer out of plastic. I do still like my Brooks B17 with Ti rails.

Originally Posted by seypat (Post 22812812)

I took the initial post as a masked way to insult some posters that didn't agree with the OP in some other threads. By starting the thread however, the OP insulted mostly himself. He doesn't have the ability to look in the mirror and evaluate/change the person looking back at him. Thread should never have been started. As usual, OP just looking for an argument. Nothing but a troll thread.

Originally Posted by PeteHski (Post 22812938)

Is your glass always half empty?

Originally Posted by Lombard (Post 22812981)

The optimist says the glass is half full.

The pessimist says the glass is half empty.

The pragmatist says use a smaller glass.

Originally Posted by Trakhak (Post 22812836)

Cabin fever in cyclists seems to induce inordinate levels of testosterone.

Originally Posted by Lombard (Post 22812981)

The optimist says the glass is half full.

The pessimist says the glass is half empty.

The pragmatist says use a smaller glass.

Originally Posted by PeteHski (Post 22812938)

Is your glass always half empty?

Originally Posted by GhostRider62 (Post 22812828)

Some guy named Filippo Ganna uses clinchers to go fast. Imagine if he used tubulars.

Originally Posted by seypat (Post 22812812)

I took the initial post as a masked way to insult some posters that didn't agree with the OP in some other threads. By starting the thread however, the OP insulted mostly himself. He doesn't have the ability to look in the mirror and evaluate/change the person looking back at him. Thread should never have been started. As usual, OP just looking for an argument. Nothing but a troll thread.

Originally Posted by PeteHski (Post 22812938)

Is your glass always half empty?

Originally Posted by GhostRider62 (Post 22813028)

Science at some point isn't a popularity poll.

What is the point of your post?

Maybe you need to look in the mirror?

There are a lot of trolls on BF, Pete is not one of them and I disagree with him pretty hard on subjective matters. The relative contribution of wheel MOI isn't really a discussion or something to agree or disagree about.

Originally Posted by PeteHski (Post 22812212)

I see the usual trolls have arrived. Like moths to a flame.

Originally Posted by seypat (Post 22813071)

He started a thread on a bike forum instructing others how to act in life. That speaks for itself.

Originally Posted by Lombard (Post 22811762)

I really think the issue most of the time is that some people just cannot stand to be proven wrong.

Originally Posted by tomato coupe (Post 22813095)

I think it was clearly meant to address how to act on this forum, not life in general.