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phughes 04-16-23 05:56 PM


Originally Posted by VegasJen (Post 22861644)
OK, seriously. I've been accused of being a troll here by a few characters. I start a completely innocent thread about something I saw the other day, yet these some of these same characters choose instead to get all wound up about my screen name. FFS. You can continue if you want, I really don't care. But if any of you dare to accuse me of trolling again, I'm calling your a$$es out. But as long as you want to continue to harp on a completely irrelevant issue, anybody ever read Covey? Talk about being stuck in the thick of thin things.

Don't mind them. It was a good thread. You actually started a thread commending someone else for their ride, instead of bragging about yours. There have been good comments, and then as in almost all the threads here, it degraded. Not your fault.

Koyote 04-16-23 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by drlogik (Post 22861480)
Every rider thinks they're tough and hard core until somebody comes along and proves otherwise. It's always been that way and always will.

Every time I get into the next-higher age bracket, I think "Now I can get on a podium, because I'm only X years old in the X-Y age bracket. I'm gonna whoop all these old men. " And then some guys who are 8-9 years older will kick my ass.


Originally Posted by tomato coupe (Post 22861488)
But, you joined the forum in Dec 2021 when you were no longer in Vegas. You could have chosen any name you wanted then.


Originally Posted by mstateglfr (Post 22861624)
Do what you want when it comes to where you live and what name you choose for a message board, but your response makes no sense to me.

You guys are obviously familiar with VegasJen ...Are you surprised that even her username makes no sense?

drlogik 04-16-23 06:52 PM


Every time I get into the next-higher age bracket, I think "Now I can get on a podium, because I'm only X years old in the X-Y age bracket. I'm gonna whoop all these old men. " And then some guys who are 8-9 years older will kick my ass.
Off topic I know but this reminds me of something many years ago (25 maybe). I was traveling weekly to Wilmington North Carolina for business and decided to take my swimming stuff and work out at the YMCA there (A good one too). I used to swim competitively in High School and college. So I'm in the pool doing warm-up laps and this group of "old guys" come in with their Speedo's, paddles, inner tubes, etc. "Inner tubes" I thought, cool, these guys are old school. My old college coach made use use them.

I thought that these guys are pretty serious. I started doing a set of 100's Free on a 1:20. Ample time while I'm still getting warmed up. I finish that and the old guys said, "Hey, you wanna swim a set with us?" Sure I said. They start a set of 100's on a 1:05. I'm thinking, are these guys serious?

As a 40 something I couldn't back out, these guys are almost 20 to 40 years older than me. I get done with the 5th one and I'm freakin' gassed. All of them were waiting on me at the wall.

Granted, I hadn't been swimming much but still. They're 60 to 80! These old guys aren't even breathing hard. They start a set of 200's on a 2:30. They smoked me. It wasn't even close. I finish MY workout and meet up with them in the locker room. Turns out these guys were top-end competitive swimmers in their day and still swam competitively in the National Masters program. As I recall, one of the guys was a past champion.

Never judge a book by its cover.



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tomato coupe 04-16-23 07:52 PM


Originally Posted by mstateglfr (Post 22861654)
I'll throw you a bone here since a simple funny observation triggered you. I don't golf anymore. I also don't attend mississippi stare anymore. Yet my name claims both.

I thought you had a girlfriend at Michigan State.

rsbob 04-16-23 10:47 PM

Thanks Jenn for starting a series of posts which give the masses lots to discuss, grouse about, and otherwise show how right they are, unfortunately at your expense. People who have the cojones to start threads, which is the basis of a forum, should be commended for getting things going. Not every post needs to be uncontroversial, rational and boring. Thanks for bringing life to the forum. Keep it up.

Now about those clipless pedals….. :D

1sp33d 04-17-23 05:47 AM

It appears that it's all about perspective what hardcore is.

Most of my friends think riding 30 miles is hardcore.

1sp33d 04-17-23 05:51 AM


Originally Posted by veganbikes (Post 22860424)
You were lucky to even get sulphuric acid.. I would get up at 3 am 2 minutes before I was allowed to go to bed in the shoebox at the bottom of the lake, my father would shoot me 8 times in the chest and I would have to drink the blood and ride for 32 weeks straight up and down Mount Everest on a Huffy with square lead wheels wearing clothes made of splinters averaging at least 800 watts while he would make me flog myself with a medieval mace, all while also holding 3 simultaneous mill jobs that I had to pay them for allowing me to do, and then when I was finished I was thrown completely in the woodchipper and when I got out I had to dig my own grave and bury myself and also do the eulogy while he defecated on my gravesite...And you tell the young people this and they don't believe you!

Oh, Clark

indyfabz 04-17-23 05:52 AM


Originally Posted by rsbob (Post 22862033)
People who have the cojones to start threads, which is the basis of a forum, should be commended for getting things going.

Like CheGiant?

Koyote 04-17-23 06:26 AM


Originally Posted by rsbob (Post 22862033)
People who have the cojones to start threads

Says a guy who starts a lot of threads.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4aa8f7d6b.jpeg

phughes 04-17-23 08:40 AM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 22862186)
Like CheGiant?

Let's not go that far.

rsbob 04-17-23 10:00 AM


Originally Posted by Koyote (Post 22862208)
Says a guy who starts a lot of threads.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...4aa8f7d6b.jpeg

Huh? What? :innocent: Non-humble brag :eek:

genejockey 04-17-23 11:00 AM


Originally Posted by mstateglfr (Post 22861624)
Do what you want when it comes to where you live and what name you choose for a message board, but your response makes no sense to me.

You joined 15 months ago and could have chosen anything you wanted, but you chose to identify by a city you are not fond of. That is funny no matter how it's explained.

She should change her nic to "Middle of Nowhere in NevadaJen"?

genejockey 04-17-23 11:03 AM

BTW, it may surprise some folks to learn that my given name is NOT Eugene, and I'm not a small guy who rides horses.

mstateglfr 04-17-23 11:14 AM


Originally Posted by genejockey (Post 22862576)
She should change her nic to "Middle of Nowhere in NevadaJen"?

[MENTION=205131]tri[/MENTION]jen
[MENTION=5177]jen[/MENTION]thetrigal

I see both of those are available and would speak to what Jen actually likes...triathlons.

But really, it isn't actually a big deal. I just noticed it and found it funny so I commented.

indyfabz 04-17-23 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by phughes (Post 22860404)
Us bicycle tourists do that all the time, day after day, carrying a load. :lol:

A photo from the 109 mile day. I noticed a school that looked open even though it was a Saturday. Turned in to bum some water. Called to two other tour members and they did the same. There was an extracurricular class going on. This was in rural IL. The teacher asked us to take some time to speak to the class. She wanted the students to know what possibilities were out there in the world, beyond their small community. We initially declined because it was hot and getting hotter, and we still had a long way to go. She ended up pleading with us, so we gave in and spoke and answered questions for about 30 min. total. The teacher took the photo and we gave her the address of our next scheduled day off in OH. (Bowling Green.) When we got to Bowling Green, I went to check for General Delivery Mail. We received the photo and hand written thank you notes from each of the students. I saved the photo and wish I had saved the notes.

I'm in the red, white and blue jersey.


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ad48e27a7a.jpg

livedarklions 04-17-23 11:48 AM


Originally Posted by terrymorse (Post 22860354)
That's not hardcore.

I used to start my morning ride at ten o'clock at night, half an hour before I went to bed, fill my bottles with sulphuric acid, ride for twenty-nine hours uphill in zone 7, and when I got home, my dad would kill me and dance about on my grave singing "Hallelujah".


That's nothing. My dad made me watch an entire Pauly Shore movie.

livedarklions 04-17-23 12:06 PM


Originally Posted by big john (Post 22861671)
My friend did a fairly hilly double century in less than 9 hours, that was pretty hardcore..

200 miles or metric? 200 miles would be crazy fast for a hilly route. Seriously, wow.

terrymorse 04-17-23 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by livedarklions (Post 22862658)
200 miles or metric? 200 miles would be crazy fast for a hilly route. Seriously, wow.

You said it. 200 miles in 9 hours is crazy fast on a pancake flat route.

In a fast peloton, maybe. Solo, forget about it.

livedarklions 04-17-23 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by VegasJen (Post 22861518)
Sure could have. Maybe there's another reason why I didn't do that.


What happens in Pahrump stays in Pahrump.

Heck, leaving Las Vegas is so popular it even has a theme song.

livedarklions 04-17-23 01:00 PM


Originally Posted by VegasJen (Post 22861418)
Changing locations is easier than changing names. I lived in Vegas for over 20 years. You ever hear the expression, "It's a nice place to visit..."?


TBH, it doesn't seem any weirder than someone keeping their married name after the divorce, and people do that all the time.

As far as Vegas goes, I don't even think it's a nice place to visit, just too weird.

rosefarts 04-17-23 01:01 PM

Fwiw, my name isn’t Rosef and I’m not an artist.

phughes 04-17-23 01:03 PM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 22862621)
A photo from the 109 mile day. I noticed a school that looked open even though it was a Saturday. Turned in to bum some water. Called to two other tour members and they did the same. There was an extracurricular class going on. This was in rural IL. The teacher asked us to take some time to speak to the class. She wanted the students to know what possibilities were out there in the world, beyond their small community. We initially declined because it was hot and getting hotter, and we still had a long way to go. She ended up pleading with us, so we gave in and spoke and answered questions for about 30 min. total. The teacher took the photo and we gave her the address of our next scheduled day off in OH. (Bowling Green.) When we got to Bowling Green, I went to check for General Delivery Mail. We received the photo and hand written thank you notes from each of the students. I saved the photo and wish I had saved the notes.

I'm in the red, white and blue jersey.


https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...ad48e27a7a.jpg

That's a great story.

livedarklions 04-17-23 01:10 PM


Originally Posted by rosefarts (Post 22862751)
Fwiw, my name isn’t Rosef and I’m not an artist.


Aww, but let us all admire fartistry:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Le_P%C3%A9tomane

noimagination 04-17-23 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by Carbonfiberboy (Post 22860096)
7 hours is a really long ride, maybe a century if one stopped for a real lunch and took a couple of other breaks. OTOH one of my little sayings is that a fit cyclist should be able to ride a century on any given day, no special prep, just dial it back to a sustainable level. Work up to it. 30 miles is perfect for a weekday, 4 hours as hard as possible for the long weekend ride. That's when interesting things start to happen, like you get faster. Takes a few months.

This has been my experience, too. Now that I'm older, though, I'm not sure that this still applies - recovery takes significantly longer, and I don't see the "training" (using the term loosely) response that I once did. The age varies, but for me I've noticed a significant drop-off after 56-57 y.o., though it's true I did reduce my cycling significantly for a few years there. (Life happens.)

I'm commuting by bike again (finally!) though, so I guess I'll see. I don't expect to ever average 20+ mph for 4+ hr again, though.

big john 04-17-23 01:59 PM


Originally Posted by livedarklions (Post 22862658)
200 miles or metric? 200 miles would be crazy fast for a hilly route. Seriously, wow.


Originally Posted by terrymorse (Post 22862675)
You said it. 200 miles in 9 hours is crazy fast on a pancake flat route.

In a fast peloton, maybe. Solo, forget about it.

200 miles, the Solvang Double. I don't remember if it was the spring or fall, they were different routes. There was a group of the fast doubles riders who would work together until the last section, then they would race against each other. My friend would carry all his food and only stop for nature breaks and to top up water.

I think my friend had the best kick at the end because he finished first in a couple. The other riders started noticing and on one ride they left the last stop while he was in the porta potty and worked together to drop him. He was able to catch all but one, I think.

Same guy finished first in the King of the Mountain series here in SoCal. It was a 3 century timed event with 30K total climbing. ( 3 different events ). He wasn't the fastest climber but he was the fastest to complete all 3 centuries. Terry knows those rides but I don't know his times. I did them but my times aren't worth mentioning.


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