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Combination of teeth wheels
Hi,
which of the combinations below is easier in climbs? 1. front and back 34 teeth wheels 2. front and back 36 teeth wheels Thanks |
Originally Posted by shroni2807
(Post 22864465)
Hi,
which of the combinations below is easier in climbs? 1. front and back 34 teeth wheels 2. front and back 36 teeth wheels Thanks All other things being equal, should be roughly identical as the ratio of 1:1 is the same. I suppose there could be some minor friction differences due to the number of teeth, but that's definitely rounding error stuff. You'd never notice it in real life. |
They would feel identical.
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Bike gear ratios are mostly over drive ratios, like 52/13 = 4/1. Really low gears go below 1/1, like my 30/36 = 0.83/1. The smaller the first number, the lower the gear ratio and the easier bit is to pedal up a hill, but slower. I ride grades up to 13% and the 30/36 works for 4-6 mph.
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Thanks for your answer.
you say that "The smaller the first number, the lower the gear ratio and the easier bit is to pedal up a hill", but as I know, the bigger the back wheel the easier bit is to pedal up a hill. you have 30 back wheel and 36 front wheel and you can climb a 13% grade but (for example) you can't climb 16% grade. if you would have 34 back wheel and 36 front wheel, then you could have climb a 16% grade. and this ratio is bigger than 0.83, not smaller. |
Originally Posted by shroni2807
(Post 22864465)
Hi,
which of the combinations below is easier in climbs? 1. front and back 34 teeth wheels 2. front and back 36 teeth wheels Thanks |
Originally Posted by shroni2807
(Post 22864530)
Thanks for your answer.
you say that "The smaller the first number, the lower the gear ratio and the easier bit is to pedal up a hill", but as I know, the bigger the back wheel the easier bit is to pedal up a hill. you have 30 back wheel and 36 front wheel and you can climb a 13% grade but (for example) you can't climb 16% grade. if you would have 34 back wheel and 36 front wheel, then you could have climb a 16% grade. and this ratio is bigger than 0.83, not smaller. |
Originally Posted by shroni2807
(Post 22864530)
Thanks for your answer.
you say that "The smaller the first number, the lower the gear ratio and the easier bit is to pedal up a hill", but as I know, the bigger the back wheel the easier bit is to pedal up a hill. you have 30 back wheel and 36 front wheel and you can climb a 13% grade but (for example) you can't climb 16% grade. if you would have 34 back wheel and 36 front wheel, then you could have climb a 16% grade. and this ratio is bigger than 0.83, not smaller. Are you now moving the cheese? Oh, by the way... Welcome to BF! |
Originally Posted by shroni2807
(Post 22864465)
Hi,
which of the combinations below is easier in climbs? 1. front and back 34 teeth wheels 2. front and back 36 teeth wheels Thanks |
shroni2807 ,
This page seems to provide a good introduction to bicycle gearing, terms & how the ratios work. Click the>>>>> LINK Welcome to BF Barry |
Originally Posted by shroni2807
(Post 22864530)
Thanks for your answer.
you say that "The smaller the first number, the lower the gear ratio and the easier bit is to pedal up a hill", but as I know, the bigger the back wheel the easier bit is to pedal up a hill. you have 30 back wheel and 36 front wheel and you can climb a 13% grade but (for example) you can't climb 16% grade. if you would have 34 back wheel and 36 front wheel, then you could have climb a 16% grade. and this ratio is bigger than 0.83, not smaller. So in your examples above. 36F/30R = 1.2 (not 0.83, which is actually the inverse). 36F/34R = 1.06 (which is less than 1.2 and therefore easier to climb) |
Yes, the front gear is a "chainring" and the rear one is usually referred to as a "cog", although "rear gear" is sometimes used, too. Given a specific wheel size, gear ratio is what's important, and as "ratio" implies, it's a direct result of the chainring teeth divided by the cog teeth. You'll see 'gear inches' used, and this is the gear ratio times the wheel diameter, in inches. Thus an 34/34 gear combination on a 26" wheel is 1 / 1 * 26 = 26 inches.
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Originally Posted by shroni2807
(Post 22864530)
if you would have 34 back wheel and 36 front wheel, then you could have climb a 16% grade. and this ratio is bigger than 0.83, not smaller.
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Originally Posted by shroni2807
(Post 22864530)
Thanks for your answer.
you say that "The smaller the first number, the lower the gear ratio and the easier bit is to pedal up a hill", but as I know, the bigger the back wheel the easier bit is to pedal up a hill. you have 30 back wheel and 36 front wheel and you can climb a 13% grade but (for example) you can't climb 16% grade. if you would have 34 back wheel and 36 front wheel, then you could have climb a 16% grade. and this ratio is bigger than 0.83, not smaller. A 36/34 is 1.06/1. It's more difficult to ride up a steep grade with that ratio, compared to my 30/36 = 0.83/1. |
DaveSS said 30/36, which is indeed 0.833.
34/30 is indeed >0.83 |
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