Combination of teeth wheels
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All other things being equal, should be roughly identical as the ratio of 1:1 is the same. I suppose there could be some minor friction differences due to the number of teeth, but that's definitely rounding error stuff. You'd never notice it in real life.
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Bike gear ratios are mostly over drive ratios, like 52/13 = 4/1. Really low gears go below 1/1, like my 30/36 = 0.83/1. The smaller the first number, the lower the gear ratio and the easier bit is to pedal up a hill, but slower. I ride grades up to 13% and the 30/36 works for 4-6 mph.
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Thanks for your answer.
you say that "The smaller the first number, the lower the gear ratio and the easier bit is to pedal up a hill", but as I know, the bigger the back wheel the easier bit is to pedal up a hill. you have 30 back wheel and 36 front wheel and you can climb a 13% grade but (for example) you can't climb 16% grade.
if you would have 34 back wheel and 36 front wheel, then you could have climb a 16% grade. and this ratio is bigger than 0.83, not smaller.
you say that "The smaller the first number, the lower the gear ratio and the easier bit is to pedal up a hill", but as I know, the bigger the back wheel the easier bit is to pedal up a hill. you have 30 back wheel and 36 front wheel and you can climb a 13% grade but (for example) you can't climb 16% grade.
if you would have 34 back wheel and 36 front wheel, then you could have climb a 16% grade. and this ratio is bigger than 0.83, not smaller.
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Thanks for your answer.
you say that "The smaller the first number, the lower the gear ratio and the easier bit is to pedal up a hill", but as I know, the bigger the back wheel the easier bit is to pedal up a hill. you have 30 back wheel and 36 front wheel and you can climb a 13% grade but (for example) you can't climb 16% grade.
if you would have 34 back wheel and 36 front wheel, then you could have climb a 16% grade. and this ratio is bigger than 0.83, not smaller.
you say that "The smaller the first number, the lower the gear ratio and the easier bit is to pedal up a hill", but as I know, the bigger the back wheel the easier bit is to pedal up a hill. you have 30 back wheel and 36 front wheel and you can climb a 13% grade but (for example) you can't climb 16% grade.
if you would have 34 back wheel and 36 front wheel, then you could have climb a 16% grade. and this ratio is bigger than 0.83, not smaller.
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Thanks for your answer.
you say that "The smaller the first number, the lower the gear ratio and the easier bit is to pedal up a hill", but as I know, the bigger the back wheel the easier bit is to pedal up a hill. you have 30 back wheel and 36 front wheel and you can climb a 13% grade but (for example) you can't climb 16% grade.
if you would have 34 back wheel and 36 front wheel, then you could have climb a 16% grade. and this ratio is bigger than 0.83, not smaller.
you say that "The smaller the first number, the lower the gear ratio and the easier bit is to pedal up a hill", but as I know, the bigger the back wheel the easier bit is to pedal up a hill. you have 30 back wheel and 36 front wheel and you can climb a 13% grade but (for example) you can't climb 16% grade.
if you would have 34 back wheel and 36 front wheel, then you could have climb a 16% grade. and this ratio is bigger than 0.83, not smaller.
Are you now moving the cheese?
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Just for your reference, it is normal to call the front the chain ring and the rear are called cogs. Some call the rear gears, but that gets confusing as we talk about what gear we are in meaning the combination of chain ring, cog, and wheel size. Some people call the front a chain wheel, but that is somewhat anachronistic. Wheels are what the bike rolls on, with tires mounted on them.
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Thanks for your answer.
you say that "The smaller the first number, the lower the gear ratio and the easier bit is to pedal up a hill", but as I know, the bigger the back wheel the easier bit is to pedal up a hill. you have 30 back wheel and 36 front wheel and you can climb a 13% grade but (for example) you can't climb 16% grade.
if you would have 34 back wheel and 36 front wheel, then you could have climb a 16% grade. and this ratio is bigger than 0.83, not smaller.
you say that "The smaller the first number, the lower the gear ratio and the easier bit is to pedal up a hill", but as I know, the bigger the back wheel the easier bit is to pedal up a hill. you have 30 back wheel and 36 front wheel and you can climb a 13% grade but (for example) you can't climb 16% grade.
if you would have 34 back wheel and 36 front wheel, then you could have climb a 16% grade. and this ratio is bigger than 0.83, not smaller.
So in your examples above. 36F/30R = 1.2 (not 0.83, which is actually the inverse). 36F/34R = 1.06 (which is less than 1.2 and therefore easier to climb)
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Yes, the front gear is a "chainring" and the rear one is usually referred to as a "cog", although "rear gear" is sometimes used, too. Given a specific wheel size, gear ratio is what's important, and as "ratio" implies, it's a direct result of the chainring teeth divided by the cog teeth. You'll see 'gear inches' used, and this is the gear ratio times the wheel diameter, in inches. Thus an 34/34 gear combination on a 26" wheel is 1 / 1 * 26 = 26 inches.
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Thanks for your answer.
you say that "The smaller the first number, the lower the gear ratio and the easier bit is to pedal up a hill", but as I know, the bigger the back wheel the easier bit is to pedal up a hill. you have 30 back wheel and 36 front wheel and you can climb a 13% grade but (for example) you can't climb 16% grade.
if you would have 34 back wheel and 36 front wheel, then you could have climb a 16% grade. and this ratio is bigger than 0.83, not smaller.
you say that "The smaller the first number, the lower the gear ratio and the easier bit is to pedal up a hill", but as I know, the bigger the back wheel the easier bit is to pedal up a hill. you have 30 back wheel and 36 front wheel and you can climb a 13% grade but (for example) you can't climb 16% grade.
if you would have 34 back wheel and 36 front wheel, then you could have climb a 16% grade. and this ratio is bigger than 0.83, not smaller.
A 36/34 is 1.06/1. It's more difficult to ride up a steep grade with that ratio, compared to my 30/36 = 0.83/1.
Last edited by DaveSSS; 04-19-23 at 04:31 PM.




