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Old 06-15-23 | 11:31 AM
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Just like the runners did not appreciate being told to get out of the way I would assume the OP did not appreciate all the scorn and judgment in this thread that seems to be a rant about issues faced while riding.

Back on topic I was recently buzzed by a minivan on my ride. It happens so often that I am now starting to believe that is is mostly a matter of poorly skilled drivers without the understanding of the physical size of their vehicles more than malice for cyclists.
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Ah yes! I know that one. It runs into Woodside Dr.
Yep. The main cycling artery from the Northern Peninsula to the amazing cycling roads farther South. (but it's Woodside Rd., not Dr.)
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Old 06-15-23 | 11:36 AM
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I ran into 3 wild turkey today on a mup.... Yelling get out of the way probably wouldn't help much I just took it slow and let them clear out of the way. As far as humans did you really expect a nice response to that!?
People here seem to be a lot more considerate of others on the path and apologize if they happen to be in the way if I have to go around them or alert I'm coming.

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After I announce ‘on your left’ or ‘passing left’ and the peds move, I always follow-up with ‘thank you’. A little positive reinforcement never hurts, unless there are too many peds. I usually avoids MUPs because of the inherent danger of people, dogs and small children.

I get thanked for the announcement a lot, and will thank the pedestrian in return.
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Old 06-15-23 | 04:04 PM
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Bells suck in a situation like that. A simple "excuse me" would have sufficed.
Speak for yourself...A loud bell has always worked for me for all types of situations...In OPs situation he didn't even need to say anything, he could of just passed them on the side without spewing out offensive crap out of his mouth.
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I think the OP's intent was for us to share our encounters too. So here is mine.

I encountered a couple walking side by side on our narrow path and I called out "bike". The gentleman looked over his shoulder, gave me a wave and they moved over to the right so I could pass on the left. One day I hope to be able to try "get out of the way", but today it didn't seem like the thing to do.
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Old 06-15-23 | 07:27 PM
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Speak for yourself...A loud bell has always worked for me for all types of situations...In OPs situation he didn't even need to say anything, he could of just passed them on the side without spewing out offensive crap out of his mouth.

I'm speaking for myself, and I have often seen people stare blankly and do nothing when they hear the bell. OP could have just said "excuse me" and it would have been fine. I do it all the time.
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Old 06-15-23 | 07:33 PM
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Well, I had an encounter today at the end of my after-work 25 mile round trip MUP ride with an inconsiderate family who within seconds actually got two of their kids to do their first bike ride without training wheels. Not only did I have to slow down, I had to stop and laugh because it was such a fun scene to see.
Won't somebody think of the Strava!!!
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Old 06-15-23 | 07:36 PM
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Old 06-15-23 | 08:42 PM
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In OPs situation he didn't even need to say anything, he could of just passed them on the side without spewing out offensive crap out of his mouth.
Wow, you make me sound like a real ogre. Did you read the part about them blocking the path? Anyway. I'm moving on to another encounter yesterday.

I love to see kids on my rides, the younger the better. A long time ago my Grandpa taught me not to distract them. They may be concentrating on steering and that's important to let them do. But sometimes they are just so cute. There is a place where a convenient path cuts diagonally through a street grid which is popular. It's a good shortcut to the local library and gets a lot of use. I was riding South, on a slight uphill when I came upon a very young girl riding north (downhill) following a woman on one of those long tail bikes. The girl was on one of those pedal-less bikes and seemed to be doing fine going down the hill. I did say "nice bike" as I passed and we all went on our way.

An hour or so later after eating my lunch at a local park I started for home. These days that park is very busy what with a swimming pool and various camp activities. There were a couple school busses blocking my sight line as I exited the parking lot so I pushed a bit forward into the lane to see around them. Here comes that same woman going uphill now with the girl seated on the back and her bike strapped on too. I said "look who's working now" and got a nice smile. Warmed my heart.
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Old 06-16-23 | 03:31 AM
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Wow, you make me sound like a real ogre. Did you read the part about them blocking the path? Anyway. I'm moving on to another encounter yesterday.
Telling pedestrians to " get out of the way" is a very inappropriate way of announcing yourself.
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Wow, you make me sound like a real ogre. Did you read the part about them blocking the path?
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Yes, and we read how you turned it into an argument by acting like a jerk instead of just saying "excuse me". 90% of people are going to tell you where to stick it if you command them to
"get out of my way.". Obviously, you haven't read your own thread.
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Old 06-16-23 | 11:14 AM
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"get out of my way".

Un-freaking-believable.
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"get out of my way".

Un-freaking-believable.

He's a very important cyclist.
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I think "Get the hell out of my way" just rolls off the tongue easier.

And cyclists can't understand the general public's perception of us as jerks.
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Old 06-16-23 | 12:19 PM
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I stopped any type of audible notification (voice or bell) for those in the path of travel as so many folks seem to wear earbuds these days and are tuned out from their immediate surroundings. The MUP I ride on has a wide, flat dirt area along the side of the asphalt for most of its length so I just veer onto that to get past.
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The MUP I ride on has a wide, flat dirt area along the side of the asphalt for most of its length so I just veer onto that to get past.
The MUPs around here are surrounded by dirt which is covered with weeds at this time of year. Those weeds conceal the sun baked ruts made by various vehicles during the rains. Veering off into that area is an immediate dump off the bike into the hardened clay (adobe) ridges painful and ugly.
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Old 06-16-23 | 02:37 PM
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The MUPs around here are surrounded by dirt which is covered with weeds at this time of year. Those weeds conceal the sun baked ruts made by various vehicles during the rains. Veering off into that area is an immediate dump off the bike into the hardened clay (adobe) ridges painful and ugly.
Well then, slow down and use a more appropriate language when announcing yourself or just get a loud bell. In all my years of cycling I never had any pedestrians deliberately block my way or prevent me from passing them after I announced myself that I was passing them. Some people actually thank me for using my bell.
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I try my best to avoid MUP’s . I have succeeded for the last few years and cycling is much nicer. I do have a bell and use it when passing others , occasionally I get a “thank you”. Now , if I could find a route without goatheads , life would be MUCH better!
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Yeah, people on MUPs can really be annoying and get in the way. You can't even drive your spaceship there without walkers getting int he way. Then, if you beam some up in an effort to make room, they say you're rude.

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Some walkers are nice. I met these folks in one of the tunnels of the abandoned stretch of the PA Turnpike that has been turned into an MUP.


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Are you an old time Herb Caen fan? That famed SF columnist made a career out of slamming us suburban hicks compared to the city sophisticates. As far as snooty, it’s hard for me to tell, I’ve lived here (mostly) my whole life so I just think it’s normal. Thanks for asking though.
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Herb Caen was great!
Actually, [MENTION=465040]Joe Bikerider[/MENTION], lots of humorists/satirists appeal to me. Matt Groening is a current favorite - takes on just about anything lacking reason and sound ethics.



Maybe you had a Cartman moment:


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Just like the runners did not appreciate being told to get out of the way I would assume the OP did not appreciate all the scorn and judgment in this thread that seems to be a rant about issues faced while riding.

Back on topic I was recently buzzed by a minivan on my ride. It happens so often that I am now starting to believe that is is mostly a matter of poorly skilled drivers without the understanding of the physical size of their vehicles more than malice for cyclists.
I take it then, your approach to someone that might be giving other bike riders a bad name, as well as acting inappropriately, is to just ignore and act like he was just fine in his use of words?

From the OP’s response above, he appears to learned what is cool and what is not, so the comments were not wasted.

Hats off to anyone who can ride a bike in one of the windiest towns in WA. You must be an animal.
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Speak for yourself...A loud bell has always worked for me for all types of situations...In OPs situation he didn't even need to say anything, he could of just passed them on the side without spewing out offensive crap out of his mouth.
I agree with what you've said, but maybe I haven't found a loud enough bell, but they haven't worked for me on the limited MUPs that I ride on (I am usually on the road). The reason? The MUPs I generally ride on are along side busy streets and highways and the traffic noise drowns out the bell. Plus peds who are listening to their ear buds**(see note). I do what's safe when I'm riding on a SHARED PATH. I keep my speed to a safe level. I pass safely by slowing down to what I think is approximately the speed of a jogger, sometimes even just walking speed if necessary. I do speak out "passing" when I think I'm in range of a loud voice, but not yelling, and wait to see if and how the ped will react, if they react. Sometimes they don't because they can't hear me because they're listening to an interesting podcast, or the same traffic noise drowns out my own voice unless I shout as loudly as I can. I'd rather proceed slowly than be yelling (even politely) at pedestrians. If they don't hear me and give way, I just slow way down and pass very carefully. I say thank you if they move. I speed up after the pass if it's clear ahead.

** lest anyone take the opportunity to disparage "plugged ears" etc. Pedestrians have every right to listen to whatever they want when they're walking. The issue isn't their hearing, the issue is a cyclist who wants to go faster than is warranted on a SHARED PATH. They're essentially sidewalks, and if you don't like it, get off onto the street where adults on bicycles belong.

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