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mstateglfr 01-08-24 12:18 PM


Originally Posted by Jicafold (Post 23123143)
Relax. It doesn't matter of people on this forum have a dog or cat or not, but that gets discussed ad nauseam.

Relax. You asked for opinions and I gave you two.

Maelochs 01-08-24 12:36 PM

OP: when you ask for "opinions" .... Opinions on whether it is probably safe to ride? Opinions on whether it is wrong to try to sell it? Opinions on whether we should buy it? Opinions on whether opinions taste better than licorice? Unclear at this time ......

Nothing wrong with selling stuff for parts. I wouldn't buy it... because I have no use for single-speed ... but if I were attending college it would be a super bike for around campus.

wheelreason 01-08-24 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by saarf (Post 23123220)

Ouch, Hit and run? Looks more like stopped short and run. Heal up quick...

easyupbug 01-08-24 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by Erzulis Boat (Post 23123095)
In many impoverished areas of the planet, that would be the fanciest and safest bicycle in the entire village. Perfectly safe to ride. Get a passport, and explore the world! It would do you good.

Having worked and toured underdeveloped nations I agree however, in this case this frame is dangerous as some of the highest bending stresses frames see are at the front of the top tube and down tube during panic breaking.

saarf 01-08-24 04:44 PM

Lo
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9a4eda210.jpeg
Looks a funny place for a impact while riding , maybe something fell on it .

shelbyfv 01-08-24 05:43 PM

I wouldn't buy it, nor would I find it interesting enough to start a thread. :rolleyes:

OldTryGuy 01-08-24 05:54 PM


Originally Posted by Jicafold (Post 23123089)

I've straightened stays and frame tubes with >>>>

https://www.parktool.com/en-us/produ...aightener-ss-1

saarf 01-08-24 06:02 PM


Originally Posted by shelbyfv (Post 23123528)
I wouldn't buy it, nor would I find it interesting enough to start a thread. :rolleyes:

is that how you expired?

veganbikes 01-08-24 06:42 PM

Damage like that throws up more red flags than a Soviet parade.

Nobody should ride it and the only reason to purchase is if the price is super low and the other components are in decent enough shape but given that massive dent I have to wonder about everything. Plus it is a pretty low initial cost single speed bike maybe better than some of the other stuff of the time but nothing so valuable it is worth spending much on it. Y

mrv 01-08-24 06:45 PM

if one of my fren-emies gave it to me for free, I'd probably try to roll the dent out, then set up some blocks on a level-ish basement floor and apply copious evenly distributed pressure to convince myself I've got it kind of aligned.
and / or take it and a bag of coffee beans to my LBS on a slow winter day and see if the owner will do an in house tool loan. (last time i mentioned bringing a mix-6 pack, but he said he's trying to get back into cycling shape - he and his family had a rough go of things with a very sick kid and The Covid Times....)

cheers!

SoSmellyAir 01-08-24 07:07 PM


Originally Posted by Iride01 (Post 23123115)
... But if it was my bike and I didn't have the means to easily afford another bike, I'd ride it. Probably not at 50 - 60 mph going down a mountain side. ...

Maybe OK to ride gently in a circle in whichever direction avoids further bending the top tube. So, like NASCAR, but much, much slower.

I am waiting for LarrySellerz to chime in on how he races others while riding frames bent much worse than shown above.

wheelreason 01-09-24 05:35 AM

3rd world countries? Park your self at the base of the Williamburg or 59th st bridge, and you'll see a bunch that look worse ridden daily. That was Bianchi's single speed steel gravel bike before there was such a thing. We had a couple in the rental fleet, you are not killing that thing, totally safe to ride.

indyfabz 01-09-24 06:49 AM


Originally Posted by saarf (Post 23123478)
Lo

Looks a funny place for a impact while riding , maybe something fell on it .

Could also be from someone prying off a Kryptonite lick with a pole.

Decades ago, the dad of a friend used to own a LBS in Philly. Every once in a while, someone would come in trying to sell a used bike. If it had a certain type of damage that was suggestive of a lock being pried off, he wouldn't by it.

Reflector Guy 01-09-24 07:54 AM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 23123923)
Could also be from someone prying off a Kryptonite lick with a pole.

Maybe someone was using the bike as the pry bar! The bike won.... But just barely.

ofajen 01-09-24 08:18 AM


Originally Posted by wheelreason (Post 23123895)
That was Bianchi's single speed steel gravel bike before there was such a thing. We had a couple in the rental fleet, you are not killing that thing, totally safe to ride.

Yeah I was thinking, first, it’s maybe just tall enough for me and, second, this is just the sort of frame I’d like to ride on our trails. The top tube doesn’t look that compromised, so yeah I’d ride it if I could get it cheap.

Otto

Bald Paul 01-09-24 08:26 AM

I guess it all depends on the selling price. If it were cheap enough, I'd buy it for parts. I mean, the air in the tires still looks good.

staehpj1 01-09-24 09:04 AM

Great for parts. Great as an on campus beater. Wouldn't pay much for it. If used as an on campus beater, I might try to jack some of the bend out, but leave the dent in. If that was a failure then it might become a parts bike. These days I wouldn't have any use for it as either, but I can see where someone would.

Edit to add:
If this bike was in my current fleet, I'd donate it to the coop. They would likely use it as a parts bike to build up a nice bike for someone in the local homeless community and the frame would likely be scrapped.

LarrySellerz 01-09-24 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by SoSmellyAir (Post 23123624)

I am waiting for LarrySellerz to chime .

looks like steel, it will just yield more instead of breaking, if it rides straight it’s probably fine.

what would you guys do to fix it? I don’t like the beating it straight suggestion and don’t think welding it for strength would improve the bike

also the location of the dent is sideways so it’s not like it has a tendency to crumple, the triangle is not compromised. It was probably hit by a car or something

wheelreason 01-09-24 10:29 AM


Originally Posted by saarf (Post 23123478)
Lo
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...9a4eda210.jpeg
Looks a funny place for a impact while riding , maybe something fell on it .

Bent while opening the Kryptonite.

indyfabz 01-09-24 12:30 PM


Originally Posted by LarrySellerz (Post 23124114)

what would you guys do to fix it?

I’d fix that (top) tube with tape and a nitrile glove and then start a thread asking how long it will last.

wheelreason 01-09-24 12:44 PM


Originally Posted by indyfabz (Post 23124266)
I’d fix that (top) tube with tape and a nitrile glove and then start a thread asking how long it will last.

Or goop and zip ties...

79pmooney 01-09-24 01:12 PM

My first though - 2 feet of quality 1x2 wood and some strong waxed or tarred sailor's marlin and quality whipping close the the seat and head lugs and on either side of the dent and that bike would ride just fine for the next 10 years. (That's stuff I always have on hand as a one time sailor. There are probably a hundred other ways just as cheap and easy to accomplish the same.) Repeat and ride another 10. And if this is a city bike, you've saved an easy pound. No U-lock required. The lightest cable out there will do just fine.

Pratt 01-09-24 03:56 PM

My standard response to "do you think this is safe?" is, "If you have to ask..."
However, if it had a S&S coupler there it would probably be fine. Similarly, I would bet a good welder could patch/replace/splint/etc. and make it safe if not svelte.

wheelreason 01-09-24 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by 79pmooney (Post 23124325)
My first though - 2 feet of quality 1x2 wood and some strong waxed or tarred sailor's marlin and quality whipping close the the seat and head lugs and on either side of the dent and that bike would ride just fine for the next 10 years. (That's stuff I always have on hand as a one time sailor. There are probably a hundred other ways just as cheap and easy to accomplish the same.) Repeat and ride another 10. And if this is a city bike, you've saved an easy pound. No U-lock required. The lightest cable out there will do just fine.

Or a monkey's fist... (no lugs), sailor or Sailor?

ScottCommutes 01-09-24 07:13 PM

Just starting to look broken in.


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