Back pain
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For me, onset of pain was 24 to 48 hours later. Delayed feedback is not very effective at driving behavior modification. But that's another story.
I recall reading somewhere along the back pain journey that every spine is different, so personal testimony is of limited experience. Cadaver studies of people who did and did not experience back pain found little correlation between reported pain and common physical spinal conditions.
So take everything with a grain of salt.
Lowering my saddle near the limits of conventional wisdom regarding knee angle helped my spine immensely. Occasional mid ride stretching helps my spine. Indeed I've found a too upright position is bad, but also too low. My saddle to bar drop is zero, and I can ride literally hundreds of miles moving between flats and drops. That's my spine.
I recall reading somewhere along the back pain journey that every spine is different, so personal testimony is of limited experience. Cadaver studies of people who did and did not experience back pain found little correlation between reported pain and common physical spinal conditions.
So take everything with a grain of salt.
Lowering my saddle near the limits of conventional wisdom regarding knee angle helped my spine immensely. Occasional mid ride stretching helps my spine. Indeed I've found a too upright position is bad, but also too low. My saddle to bar drop is zero, and I can ride literally hundreds of miles moving between flats and drops. That's my spine.
I have a fitness bike it’s where comfortable , and handle bars are slightly below saddle
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About 3 miles at a 3 mph pace. When I walk specifically for back rehab, I use a special motion, rotating each hip in a circle as best as I'm able. When I've been fixing a sciatica attack, that hurts like the devil for the first mile, then gets better. If you don't have pain while walking just a normal walk works fine. Oddly or perhaps not oddly at all, walking seems to be about the best core exercise, works everything. I guess that makes sense, after all we are bipeds and are supposed to be walking during many of our waking hours, but we don't do that much now that everything is mechanized - and the bike is also a machine. Thus many of our core muscles are activated specifically by walking - that's what they're for.
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Now seeing downtube42's post, it's totally normal for muscle exercise to produce soreness about 48 hour later, known and DOMS - Delayed Onset Muscle Soreness. It's normal, just means you did something unusual or did it more than has been usual recently. Since pedaling activity varies with the individual, the amount of activation of the posterior chain also varies. Those who activate that muscle chain on the bike are more likely to get a sore lower back from greater than usual cycling activity. That's a decent theory anyway, not a proven result.
That said, I've found that strengthening my whole posterior chain reduces or eliminates my back pain after riding. My favorite over time has been the Romanian deadlift, relatively light weight, high reps, a full stop at the bottom, no jerking. For this old man, say 40 reps with 100 lbs. but start with way, way less.
That said, I've found that strengthening my whole posterior chain reduces or eliminates my back pain after riding. My favorite over time has been the Romanian deadlift, relatively light weight, high reps, a full stop at the bottom, no jerking. For this old man, say 40 reps with 100 lbs. but start with way, way less.
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This was my first thought in reading the original post. I've never had back pain from cycling, but a few days ago I strained my back from lifting something too heavy. It's not a bad strain, but I can feel it when I'm walking. I've been riding every day and don't notice the back pain when I'm riding, and it's not worse when I finish. From my experience, cycling should not cause back pain. Others may have different experiences, but my thought is that if you ride with good form (and the bike fits you), you shouldn't get back pain from riding.
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I'm surprised that none have ask where the back pain is. Upper back between the shoulders. Lower back at your waistline? As well, how often and how long you ride your bike will be nice information. And even what type of bike it is can help us imagine how you fit to it.
Do you stay hydrated and drink plenty of fluid while you ride?
Do you stay hydrated and drink plenty of fluid while you ride?
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I gave up MTBing 10 years ago for several reasons, a minor one being that the upright position was causing lower back pain. Now, at 80 yrs I find the most comfortable position on a bike is in the drops and I have no back pain with 50 mile rides pretty normal at least once a week. Most averaging 20 6 days a week. Proper fit on a bike makes all the difference in the world.
I should be more specific about lower back pain, it was more like tail bone.
I should be more specific about lower back pain, it was more like tail bone.
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Lowered my bars to cm and started having lower back pain after the ride. Worked on core exercises and it disappeared. Unrelated to cycling, or so I think - since it’s been cronic, I have muscle related hip pain on one side. Am currently doing PT to strengthen my ‘very weak back’ according to the PT. I hate the exercises, but time will tell - he said my core is overcompensating for my back and time to get the two in balance. So strengthen both.
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In my own case, I've got an old injury to muscles in one leg and hip. Muscles only. Lots of scar tissue. Big problem with remaining limber enough in a handful of muscle areas: hip flexors, groin, hamstrings, glutes, and low-back muscles. Invariably, if I find myself sitting too much and not paying enough attention to ensuring I remain flexible enough in those particular muscles, I find myself getting some low back pain. IMO, it has to do with the pelvic tilt, which those old injures seriously get in the way of maintaining during rides. But being flexible enough on those particular muscle areas really helps, in my case.
One more option, if you don't find the other things improve it.
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When ever I incorporate cycling into my lifestyle, I notice my back hurts. However I never have any pain or discomfort when during bike riding or even directly after.
it is usually few hours later like when I’m getting up out of chairs or in general.
It will exist off and on as such that as long as biking is part of my lifestyle .
Do you think it’s because of biking even though I never have pain during cycling ?
it is usually few hours later like when I’m getting up out of chairs or in general.
It will exist off and on as such that as long as biking is part of my lifestyle .
Do you think it’s because of biking even though I never have pain during cycling ?
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Good recs on core strengthening. I did a lot of core work and it helped a great deal for life in general. Lot’s of videos out there on core work for cyclists. However, I neglected doing back specific strengthening exercises which resulted in a super strong core (not six pack abs by any stretch of the imagination) but to the detriment of my back muscles which resulted in pain during prolonged standing in my glute region. So now I am doing PT to get my body back in balance. Morale to the story, do core AND back exercises. Another issue is having strong quads (an issue? Seriously? says backwards hat Dylan) which also threw my back out of balance. So my exercise should help with that imbalance as well.
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