Anybody care about secrecy on your bike?
05-02-24, 07:26 AM
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OP could be known as the Univega Bomber. See what I did there?
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05-02-24, 07:48 AM
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I’m sure when an alphabet agency comes and kicks my door down they’ll be shocked to find my unregistered bikes.
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05-02-24, 07:58 AM
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05-02-24, 08:17 AM
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They should be tracking people that ride assploding China CF bikes from AliBaba... those people need to be watched.
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05-02-24, 08:28 AM
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I do remember in the pre-wordle days, how much I appreciated camping trips with no service. Not to hide but to unplug for a few days. Can’t risk my streak for that anymore.
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05-02-24, 08:33 AM
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A lot of people don't realize that modern surveillance satellites can detect the impurities in aluminum foil hats, and the government can track you using that.
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05-02-24, 08:47 AM
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Hey OP! Sure the bike might not be easily tracked, but did you forget about the chip the Greys put in you when they abducted you?
https://residentalien.fandom.com/wiki/The_Greys
https://residentalien.fandom.com/wiki/The_Greys
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05-02-24, 09:09 AM
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Are there no traffic, trail, security, or doorbell cameras in New Jersey?
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05-02-24, 09:17 AM
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https://www.the-postillon.com/2017/1...abet-soup.html
05-02-24, 09:55 AM
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To the OP - this is incorrect, there is no secrecy. From the radioactive isotopes dropped via chem trails from high altitudes used to track you to the microscopic RF tracker put into our Covid and flu shots, there is no escape from government.
They are watching.
They are watching.
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05-02-24, 10:54 AM
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What about the stash of Campbell's soup you have hidden underneath you kitchen floor? What exactly are you hiding?
https://www.the-postillon.com/2017/1...abet-soup.html
https://www.the-postillon.com/2017/1...abet-soup.html
05-02-24, 11:28 AM
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05-02-24, 01:00 PM
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I suggest the OP dig a very deep bunker, line it with lead, and set up a fan and a trainer.
No amount of paranoia is too much.
No amount of paranoia is too much.
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05-02-24, 01:59 PM
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In all seriousness, I appreciate the anonymity that a bike can offer; you can cover far more ground than on foot, you can access places that you can’t get a car to, and there are plenty of ways to stash a bike that aren’t as visible to the casual observer as a parked vehicle.
Also, if you’re in “street clothes” on a nondescript hybrid or MTB, you’re just “some dude with no car “ than a “Lance wannabe” and you don’t get a second look.
Also, if you’re in “street clothes” on a nondescript hybrid or MTB, you’re just “some dude with no car “ than a “Lance wannabe” and you don’t get a second look.
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05-02-24, 03:47 PM
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I was more of a Morocco Mole fan myself, the Fez is just such a great hat:
05-02-24, 04:23 PM
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No one knows who gets second looks or from who. Maybe people notice nondescript guys on bikes and immediately think they are threats---multiple DUI offenders who probably commit casual petty crimes regularly, while they think the guys in lycra are just harmless wanabees---or maybe their dentists.
Asa for the alphabet groups---you never know if they are watching no matter what you do or don't do. You could have made some casual comic post on some cycling website which set off triggers---maybe some innocuous comment in a thread posted by someone else they were watching in some case of mistaken identity---and suddenly you are on The Secret List.
We will probably never know.
Asa for the alphabet groups---you never know if they are watching no matter what you do or don't do. You could have made some casual comic post on some cycling website which set off triggers---maybe some innocuous comment in a thread posted by someone else they were watching in some case of mistaken identity---and suddenly you are on The Secret List.
We will probably never know.
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05-02-24, 05:53 PM
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I get this isnt a serious thread, I'm sitting here LMAO, seriously.
I was gonna say make sure you pay for everything with cash, dont use CC/BankCards, or those implanted chippy things, trackable. Oh, dont put an itag or the droid version on your bike to track it either, I need to remove mine from behind the bottle cage. And I paid cash for my trek bike at the LBS, they didnt force me to register it, I did in my brothers name so the "secret agents" can track him instead in a different state no less LOL
Lets see what else, wear generic type street clothes, grey (wo)man principle. My problem? My body, hair & voice is too damn distinctive, let alone I advertised in my local paper for over 5 yrs as a real estate agent in support of homeless pets. I walk into the local coffee chains (4 different ones in 50 miles of my home base I frequent) & they all know me LOL
Yeah, no smart phones or even flip phones unless you get a burner & switch the sim out every month or so, make sure you turn off the location in it, no gps or smart watches/rings/fitness trackers. Couple years ago there was a big blowup that the military over in Iraq/Afgan were being tracked by their fitness watches & the "bad guys" could plot when to attack/plant bombs/sappers by that info.
Am I paranoid? No, I used to work for the government in a couple different positions but not for the alphabets. Plus being ex military myself, in the security field, & a major interest in stuff like this just gets me down rabbit holes sometimes.
Now git, go ride your bikes so I can use my drone to watch you
I was gonna say make sure you pay for everything with cash, dont use CC/BankCards, or those implanted chippy things, trackable. Oh, dont put an itag or the droid version on your bike to track it either, I need to remove mine from behind the bottle cage. And I paid cash for my trek bike at the LBS, they didnt force me to register it, I did in my brothers name so the "secret agents" can track him instead in a different state no less LOL
Lets see what else, wear generic type street clothes, grey (wo)man principle. My problem? My body, hair & voice is too damn distinctive, let alone I advertised in my local paper for over 5 yrs as a real estate agent in support of homeless pets. I walk into the local coffee chains (4 different ones in 50 miles of my home base I frequent) & they all know me LOL
Yeah, no smart phones or even flip phones unless you get a burner & switch the sim out every month or so, make sure you turn off the location in it, no gps or smart watches/rings/fitness trackers. Couple years ago there was a big blowup that the military over in Iraq/Afgan were being tracked by their fitness watches & the "bad guys" could plot when to attack/plant bombs/sappers by that info.
Am I paranoid? No, I used to work for the government in a couple different positions but not for the alphabets. Plus being ex military myself, in the security field, & a major interest in stuff like this just gets me down rabbit holes sometimes.
Now git, go ride your bikes so I can use my drone to watch you
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05-02-24, 07:15 PM
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How about the tires leaving evidence? might want to swap them out several times per ride
05-02-24, 07:33 PM
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Ask @AirPhantomPhoto --- No one is untrackable and particularly no one living in the US ..... if someone with power decides to, you can be followed everywhere.
And so what?
Big Brother would have to hire half the nation to comprehensively track the other half ... and Big Brother would then have to hire the other half, to track the other half, just to be safe. And most of what anyone could collect would be too boring to notice.
Exactly anyone could be followed, on their bike or anywhere else .... but no one wants to. You could spend your whole life hiding and you would succeed----because no one is looking for you. if they were, they would already be all over every aspect of your life. And you might never know because you are doing nothing actionable.
You can sneak around on your bike or you can ride a twelve-foot-tall tall bake, towing a huge sound system and displaying disco lights ... and no one would care.
Basically they can track you if they want to no matter what you do ... but They Don't Want To.
But you have already figured out that I am on their payrolll ... so ignore me and double up on that tinfoil.
And so what?
Big Brother would have to hire half the nation to comprehensively track the other half ... and Big Brother would then have to hire the other half, to track the other half, just to be safe. And most of what anyone could collect would be too boring to notice.
Exactly anyone could be followed, on their bike or anywhere else .... but no one wants to. You could spend your whole life hiding and you would succeed----because no one is looking for you. if they were, they would already be all over every aspect of your life. And you might never know because you are doing nothing actionable.
You can sneak around on your bike or you can ride a twelve-foot-tall tall bake, towing a huge sound system and displaying disco lights ... and no one would care.
Basically they can track you if they want to no matter what you do ... but They Don't Want To.
But you have already figured out that I am on their payrolll ... so ignore me and double up on that tinfoil.
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05-02-24, 07:36 PM
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One aspect of biking vs. other popular means of getting around is the relative secrecy it affords. You can easily and legally buy a nondescript bike in cash on a street corner without giving your name. You don't need a license, or (generally) registration. There are no secret VIN numbers hidden on the bottom of any bike parts. Without license plates, optical scanners of that sort aren't tracking you. There's no national bike registry. There's no Onstar or any realistic possibility of satellite or terrestrial tracking of your whereabouts (unless you bring a phone!). Heck, you can even hide your face behind a helmet and visor/glasses and nobody would notice.
I suppose that anybody who really values secrecy (government agents, domestic violence victims, crooks, witness protection program, etc.) won't reply to this random thread. I just find it refreshing that in this day and age of "1984" being foisted upon us, the bike provides a welcome bit of privacy to "disappear" for a little while.
I suppose that anybody who really values secrecy (government agents, domestic violence victims, crooks, witness protection program, etc.) won't reply to this random thread. I just find it refreshing that in this day and age of "1984" being foisted upon us, the bike provides a welcome bit of privacy to "disappear" for a little while.
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05-02-24, 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Ironfish653;23229578[b
]In all seriousness, I appreciate the anonymity that a bike can offer; you can cover far more ground than on foot, you can access places that you can’t get a car to, and there are plenty of ways to stash a bike that aren’t as visible to the casual observer as a parked vehicle.
Also, if you’re in “street clothes” on a nondescript hybrid or MTB, you’re just “some dude with no car “ than a “Lance wannabe” and you don’t get a second look.
Also, if you’re in “street clothes” on a nondescript hybrid or MTB, you’re just “some dude with no car “ than a “Lance wannabe” and you don’t get a second look.
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