No one can argue this isn’t fun!!! You finish your second day of a tour across PA at Husky Haven Campground along the GAP in Rockwood. After pitching your tent, you ride into town for a shower and then scrounge up dinner fixings at the meager dollar store and pick up some local wine. Before you prepare dinner, a small owl snags a chipmunk 15’ from your picnic table. You hear the rodent let out its last earthly squeaks.

Night comes and you’re reliving the day’s events in your mind in front of the fire burning with the ample supply of free wood. And then this happens (Wait for it.):

Maybe it's you who doesn't. 225 posts in this thread, several bordering on violence. And an o.p. that is the originator of at least of dozen threads like it in just scant weeks. If that isn't the definition of a troll then, you're right. I have no idea what we have here. But it isn't as per usual. Can we agree on that?

Nathan 5 chime blowing for two crossings? That would make it all worthwhile for me!

The number of posts in a thread doesn’t define troll. The number of threads someone posts in a given period doesn’t define troll. Trolls post threads to deliberately upset people. And they often don’t post follow up posts, instead sitting back to enjoy the fallout.

That only a small minority here are upset means that if Deason is a troll, he’s not very good at it.

No, everybody’s opinion is not as equally bad. Obviously.

Some opinions are expressed by people with experience and/or some degree of detail about the basis for the opinion. It possible to learn something from that (even if you don’t agree with it).

The opinion expressed by the OP in this thread has none of these things.

@smd4 stumbles backwards into a patch of truth but deftly escapes without getting any on him.

I guess you don't get the point. No one is offended by what he said about bike packing. For me, I called him out because he started yet another thread in which he asked no questions, and a thread that had no purpose. The only question he did ask was not really a question, and served no purpose, except to troll.

As for your report on how people in California have no sense of humor, I understand. I live in the East, and I happened to have made my living performing mainly comedy since 1985. I'm about to give it up since people no longer have a sense of humor, but I can assure you, nothing the OP has posted is humorous. He posts to get attention. There are occasionally tiny tidbits of decent bicycling related material.

I truly hope the OP takes the trip, on a bicycle, if he actually has a son, and an actual trip is in the works. He may like it, and he may not. There is nothing wrong with credit card touring, in fact, I think it would be quite freeing. No worries about carrying a tent, setting up, tearing down, etc. Ride with less gear, check into a hotel, take a nice shower, change then get some good food. Sound enjoyable.

So I hope he goes. I hope he posts pictures from his trip, in the appropriate forum, and I hope he has fun. I really would like him to pose with his bike along the trip somewhere holding a current newspaper and a sign that says, "Bike Forums," you know, for proof of life.

Yet you alone are whining about other people “being here”.

Sounds like good advice. (It’s arguable whether he’s a troll but many of his posts don’t help his case.)

Saying “everybody has lost their minds “ is pretty unhinged.

What?

Nah, go get pizza at the Rockwood Mill Shoppes. There is an old Opera House upstairs and I had the pleasure of performing there once. the walls where the back stage used to be have old signatures of old vaudeville acts on it. Pretty cool.

That train was all night long when I was there. THe ear plugs helped a bit.

I stopped at a fairgrounds somewhere in Indiana as I was crossing Indiana and Ohio in 2019. I was traveling with a hammock. I couldn't find two trees that day, at least not where I was setting up, and I didn't have what I have now that allows me to hang it with one tree or support and my bicycle, so I set it up on the ground like a tent. After setting up, a train passed by, about 40 feet from my site. I hadn't seen the tracks, they were behind some trees and bushes. 20 minutes later another train went by. 20 minutes later another train went by. 20 minutes later as the next train went by, I packed up and headed to a hotel. Thankfully I have set up early so it was late afternoon by then.

"Whining"? English not your first language?

I guess the words "comedic hyperbole" were lost on you.

I think I could enjoy a trip where all I had to do was ride, and eat, and have a hot shower, a tasty meal, and a warm bed - and my own pillow - at the end of the day, and clean bike clothes the next morning. As long as I didn't have to make small talk in a paceline. Two things stand in the way 1) money, because it would cost a bit for the level of service I'd want and 2) Mrs. GJ wouldn't be into it.

I've done enough camping to know it's not for me, though of course there were nice moments. I love that folks like Indy really enjoy it and I love the pics he posts. It's good that everybody doesn't like the same things, or the world would be really boring and everything would be terribly expensive.

???

Don’t quit your day job.

The Mill Shoppes is where I got the wine. It had a license to sell PA wine. It was actually decent, A young girl was working and asked the older woman if she could ring me up. Nope. Too young, She looked to be about 14.

Husky Haven closed in October of last year, I believe it was. The owners retired. Big loss. I hope someone takes over the place.

I did two supported, indoor sleeping tours across PA back in the 90s. We stayed in college dorms every night and ate in the cafeterias.

I have also done 8 supported camping tours, including 4 Cycle Oregons. One big issue with those is that you sometimes unknowingly pitch your tent next to a loud snorer. You don’t find out until the middle of the night. We had 4 really bad snorers on my cross country trip. By the first week, we had adopted a segregation policy. They had to pitch as far away from everyone else as practicable. If we had multiple sites, there were non-snoring sites. Same with rooms in hostels.

See?
"People used to tell me I was funny."
"Did they work for you?"

In my case, the call snoring would definitely be coming from inside the building tent

Last time I did the Bon Ton Roulet in the Finger Lakes area of NY, we stayed at Keuka College for two nights. A guy next to us was an incredibly loud snorer. I’m talking Fred Flintstone loud. The second night, we gained access to one of the dorms to watch Le Tour coverage in a common area that had several large couches. When coverage ended, I went back to the tent and grabbed our sleeping bags and pillows. The GF let me back in the building. We slept in silence on the couches.

Then don't do a self sustained bike packing style trip, if it doesn't sound appealing.
That's all you needed to say in the first place...though you didn't even need to say that. You could have said nothing at all.

With my hip/leg thing, I'm only comfortable sleeping sitting up a bit, which means I snore s loud I wake myself up. And I don't, Mrs.GJ does!!

His next thread: “Things I Don’t Want to do on a Bike”.

Very brief summary.

(To) whine (p/p and ger. 'whining'), v.
A couple of primary meanings, but we notice the connexion (U.S. 'connection') to 'sound' in both:
i) a continuous high-pitched/droning sound, e.g. that made by mosquitoes;
ii) to complain about something continuously in a droning, often nasally, and peevish manner.

(To) whinge (p/p and ger. 'whingeing' [or 'whinging']), v.
One primary meaning -- roughly:
To complain constantly, typically in a peevish manner, about something that is or appears to be utterly trivial.

I know all this.

How does it relate at all to “English not your first language?”?

”Whinge” isn’t common at all in American English though it might be more felicitous.

You're absolutely right - it's not fun at all. I sometimes look back on some of these pictures just to remind myself of that. Look how miserable I am.

https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/bikefor...a6f4de64b7.jpg

“Do this. Don’t do that. Can’t you read the sign?”