Should I hammer it?
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GMTA. I actually almost went back and added that after I posted that.
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I know you meant this to be waggish, but it does make me think - "How much of their own work does the 'average rider' do?" And here I'm thinking of the actual average rider, not the average BF member, because we're way to one side of the distribution.
I have a coworker who was getting into road cycling, and because he has money, he bought The Good Stuff - a Cervelo and later a Wilier - but never learned how to fix a flat. I mean, AT ALL, not just on the road. He flatted on one ride, called his wife to pick him up, and then took the bike to the LBS to get the flat fixed. Is THAT what the "average rider" does? And if that's the case, isn't EVERYTHING "too complicated for the average rider"?
I have a coworker who was getting into road cycling, and because he has money, he bought The Good Stuff - a Cervelo and later a Wilier - but never learned how to fix a flat. I mean, AT ALL, not just on the road. He flatted on one ride, called his wife to pick him up, and then took the bike to the LBS to get the flat fixed. Is THAT what the "average rider" does? And if that's the case, isn't EVERYTHING "too complicated for the average rider"?
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I have the same style TA on my Checkpoint, I seem to remember the 6mm hex going all the way through. Can't you run a punch of sorts through from the drive side and bonk it out that way?
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I'm pretty sure that there are just as many of the folks you describe as there are folks like us. A gal I used to ride with flat-out (HA!) refuses to learn how to change a flat. Her go-to is "I'll just call Uber" and then loads the bike into her 4Runner to take it to the LBS. The time lost waiting for a ride, the cost of the ride itself, the price of servicing the bike at the LBS (Trek store), and the cost in gas for there-and-back is something that I just can't fathom being OK with spending/wasting.
Riding for 24 years and never fixed a flat or pumped up a tire. How does that happen?
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I was in the LBS this week and a pretty young thing came in with a 2000 model year Gary Fisher mountain bike she got new. It was well ridden (but not abused) and she had no idea how to fix a flat or even pump up the tire.
Riding for 24 years and never fixed a flat or pumped up a tire. How does that happen?
Riding for 24 years and never fixed a flat or pumped up a tire. How does that happen?

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For your consideration...I prefer thru-axles with non-removable levers, and I'm using these types of thru-axes on my gravel bike and MTB. My history with quick-release skewers on rim brake bikes has left me with the strong preference to not need an additional tool to remove a wheel. That said, with tubeless tires, flats can usually be fixed without needing to remove the wheel.
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I was in the LBS this week and a pretty young thing came in with a 2000 model year Gary Fisher mountain bike she got new. It was well ridden (but not abused) and she had no idea how to fix a flat or even pump up the tire.
Riding for 24 years and never fixed a flat or pumped up a tire. How does that happen?
Riding for 24 years and never fixed a flat or pumped up a tire. How does that happen?
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I use DT Swiss on my gravel bike...

...and RockShox Maxle on my MTB (DT Swiss didn't come in the correct sizes)...
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Tried copper pipe as breaker bar and mini rubber mallet to no success. I'd feel better applying more force if I knew what the mechanism is locking the tool in place.
I could just leave it there and buy one for the front. It does make taking rear wheel off easy and convenient.
I could just leave it there and buy one for the front. It does make taking rear wheel off easy and convenient.
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For your consideration...I prefer thru-axles with non-removable levers, and I'm using these types of thru-axes on my gravel bike and MTB. My history with quick-release skewers on rim brake bikes has left me with the strong preference to not need an additional tool to remove a wheel. That said, with tubeless tires, flats can usually be fixed without needing to remove the wheel.
one of the first things I did to my bike with a rear thru axle with attached lever is replace it with a standard thru axle
I always carry a hex tool
as a side note - the rear axle with lever weighed just over 90 g - the replacement RAP axle weighed just under 40 g
before :

after :

( yes - I kept the dork disk …
… for now )
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Originally Posted by Iride01
I really thought this would be a thread about "dropping the hammer".
I pull a Claudio Chiapucci and drop the hammer when someone in the group reaches down and grabs their water bottle
Originally Posted by Iride01
I really thought this would be a thread about "dropping the hammer".
I pull a Claudio Chiapucci and drop the hammer when someone in the group reaches down and grabs their water bottle
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