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Old 07-05-24 | 02:36 PM
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In both directions in the snow?

Seriously…I once had to change the flat of your club president so we wouldn’t be standing my the suit the road for 30 minutes?
GMTA. I actually almost went back and added that after I posted that.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
Give the OP what he wants, people.

No 'chest parachute' to go with the parachute pants?
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Old 07-05-24 | 02:52 PM
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GMTA. I actually almost went back and added that after I posted that.
Heh. I meant “our” club. Fixed it.
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Old 07-05-24 | 03:02 PM
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I know you meant this to be waggish, but it does make me think - "How much of their own work does the 'average rider' do?" And here I'm thinking of the actual average rider, not the average BF member, because we're way to one side of the distribution.

I have a coworker who was getting into road cycling, and because he has money, he bought The Good Stuff - a Cervelo and later a Wilier - but never learned how to fix a flat. I mean, AT ALL, not just on the road. He flatted on one ride, called his wife to pick him up, and then took the bike to the LBS to get the flat fixed. Is THAT what the "average rider" does? And if that's the case, isn't EVERYTHING "too complicated for the average rider"?
I'm pretty sure that there are just as many of the folks you describe as there are folks like us. A gal I used to ride with flat-out (HA!) refuses to learn how to change a flat. Her go-to is "I'll just call Uber" and then loads the bike into her 4Runner to take it to the LBS. The time lost waiting for a ride, the cost of the ride itself, the price of servicing the bike at the LBS (Trek store), and the cost in gas for there-and-back is something that I just can't fathom being OK with spending/wasting.
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Old 07-05-24 | 03:06 PM
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Bikes: Probably too many...

I have the same style TA on my Checkpoint, I seem to remember the 6mm hex going all the way through. Can't you run a punch of sorts through from the drive side and bonk it out that way?
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Old 07-05-24 | 03:07 PM
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I cannot remove the switch lever tool installed on my Checkpoint's rear wheel. I tried finessing it and pulling hard but it appears jammed. My next usual modus operandi in these situations is a BFH unless there's a trick to getting it off.
You can always use a hot wrench.
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Old 07-05-24 | 03:11 PM
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Bikes have definitely become too complicated for the average rider.
Well, at least the wingnuts are riding the bike now rather than holding the front wheel on, so some progress has been made.
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Old 07-05-24 | 03:19 PM
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I'm pretty sure that there are just as many of the folks you describe as there are folks like us. A gal I used to ride with flat-out (HA!) refuses to learn how to change a flat. Her go-to is "I'll just call Uber" and then loads the bike into her 4Runner to take it to the LBS. The time lost waiting for a ride, the cost of the ride itself, the price of servicing the bike at the LBS (Trek store), and the cost in gas for there-and-back is something that I just can't fathom being OK with spending/wasting.
I was in the LBS this week and a pretty young thing came in with a 2000 model year Gary Fisher mountain bike she got new. It was well ridden (but not abused) and she had no idea how to fix a flat or even pump up the tire.

Riding for 24 years and never fixed a flat or pumped up a tire. How does that happen?
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Old 07-05-24 | 03:35 PM
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Originally Posted by PromptCritical
I was in the LBS this week and a pretty young thing came in with a 2000 model year Gary Fisher mountain bike she got new. It was well ridden (but not abused) and she had no idea how to fix a flat or even pump up the tire.

Riding for 24 years and never fixed a flat or pumped up a tire. How does that happen?
Interesting how our definition of "young" changes, ain't it?
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Originally Posted by MilhouseJ
…is something that I just can't fathom being OK with spending/wasting.
Oh boy. Now you’ve done it. Did I waste my money buying Rapha jerseys?
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Old 07-05-24 | 03:49 PM
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Oh boy. Now you’ve done it. Did I waste my money buying Rapha jerseys?
Only if you didn't get the ones that'll save you .06 watts at 40kph over the course of an hour! Free* speed!


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Old 07-05-24 | 03:58 PM
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I really thought this would be a thread about "dropping the hammer".
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Interesting how our definition of "young" changes, ain't it?
Yeah, and why does it say “Senior Member” above my Avatar?
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For your consideration...I prefer thru-axles with non-removable levers, and I'm using these types of thru-axes on my gravel bike and MTB. My history with quick-release skewers on rim brake bikes has left me with the strong preference to not need an additional tool to remove a wheel. That said, with tubeless tires, flats can usually be fixed without needing to remove the wheel.
The switch lever can be removed and then one has a regular old thru axle with 6mm hex tool interface.
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Old 07-05-24 | 04:16 PM
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Originally Posted by PromptCritical
I was in the LBS this week and a pretty young thing came in with a 2000 model year Gary Fisher mountain bike she got new. It was well ridden (but not abused) and she had no idea how to fix a flat or even pump up the tire.

Riding for 24 years and never fixed a flat or pumped up a tire. How does that happen?
Maybe she’s been deterred from asking questions for fear of being called something like “pretty young thing” in the process.
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Originally Posted by Iride01
I really thought this would be a thread about "dropping the hammer".
It’s drope the hamer. You must be new around here.
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Originally Posted by bboy314
The switch lever can be removed and then one has a regular old thru axle with 6mm hex tool interface.
I understand this. It is my personal preference not to have to use a 6mm hex wrench to remove a wheel, particularly out in the wild.

I use DT Swiss on my gravel bike...


...and RockShox Maxle on my MTB (DT Swiss didn't come in the correct sizes)...
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Tried copper pipe as breaker bar and mini rubber mallet to no success. I'd feel better applying more force if I knew what the mechanism is locking the tool in place.

I could just leave it there and buy one for the front. It does make taking rear wheel off easy and convenient.
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Originally Posted by indyfabz
Seriously…I once had to change the flat of our club president so we wouldn’t be standing my the suit the road for 30 minutes?
The primary requirement to be a club president is the ability to say "yes". (Hard to fault people who choose to step up. It can be hard to find people to do that.)
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I don't know what this is.
Neither does he.
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just lucky I didn’t find out with a front flat on the road that it’s stuck. .
Not much chance of that happening.
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Old 07-05-24 | 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Iride01
I really thought this would be a thread about "dropping the hammer".
He would have to ride first.
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For your consideration...I prefer thru-axles with non-removable levers, and I'm using these types of thru-axes on my gravel bike and MTB. My history with quick-release skewers on rim brake bikes has left me with the strong preference to not need an additional tool to remove a wheel. That said, with tubeless tires, flats can usually be fixed without needing to remove the wheel.
I’m on the opposite end - I don’t like thru axles with an attached lever - prefer to use a hex tool

one of the first things I did to my bike with a rear thru axle with attached lever is replace it with a standard thru axle

I always carry a hex tool

as a side note - the rear axle with lever weighed just over 90 g - the replacement RAP axle weighed just under 40 g


before :






after :



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I really thought this would be a thread about "dropping the hammer".

Originally Posted by indyfabz
It’s drope the hamer. You must be new around here.
I pull a Claudio Chiapucci and drop the hammer when someone in the group reaches down and grabs their water bottle
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Interesting how our definition of "young" changes, ain't it?
Also our definition of "pretty".
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