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Facts just confuse people




Joined: Jul 2017
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From: Mississippi
Bikes: Tarmac Disc Comp Di2 - 2020
The bike itself. I held on to the belief that road bikes from the late 70's were the best for way too long. Though they were great riding bikes, my 2020 Tarmac is the most fun bike I've ever ridden.
If the answer has to be something added to a bike, then that would be tires. On those old vintage bikes I use to buy cheap tires. When I finally bought a tire that was middle to high end of the price range, I was surprised how much better the ride was and how they rolled more easily with less leg muscle.
If the answer has to be something added to a bike, then that would be tires. On those old vintage bikes I use to buy cheap tires. When I finally bought a tire that was middle to high end of the price range, I was surprised how much better the ride was and how they rolled more easily with less leg muscle.
Last edited by Iride01; 11-29-24 at 10:23 AM.
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From: Eastern Shore MD
Bikes: Lemond Zurich/Trek ALR/Giant TCX/Stumpy 15
Road bike? If so:
-modern 28-32mm race tires, like GP5000’s or similar, are fast, supple, light, grippy and puncture resistant.
-wheels, lighter, deeper section wheels can change the entire bike.
-wide range rear cassette, something that will get you a 1 to 1 gear ratio or better for climbing.
IMHO, the best bang for your buck performance improvements.
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Not to sound too harsh, but I feel like I bought the right bike in the first place. And that goes for my previous two bikes. I replaced things when they wore out, and tires have gotten marginally better over the nearly 300K miles I've put on those three bikes. They all rode/ride great and there are no miracles if you start from the right place.
#12
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From: NW Oregon
Bikes: 1982 Trek 930R Custom, '91 Diamondback Ascent w/ XT, XTR updates, Fuji Team Pro CF road flyer, Specialized Sirrus Gravel Convert, '09 Comencal Meta 5.5 XC, '02 Marin MBX500, '84 Gitane Criterium bike
proper gear ratios for my Gravel/Rails to Trails bike. this included a compact geared Hollowtech II Crankset that lightened the bike at least 1 lb too.
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in '69, Tubular wheels & silks
in '74, a frame which fit me great
in 76, 6 spd freewheels (wheels...)
in the 80 it was ultra7 spd freewheels
in the early 90's it was indexed Shifters (Suntour Command shifters)
in the late 90's it was 8 spd 'Brifters' and ISIS cranksets
in the early 2000's it was HED wheels
in the Mid 2000s it was CF frames & 10 spd Brifters/drivetrain
in 2022 it was TPU tubes for road, and tubeless for MTB & single chainring & Clutch RD for Gravel
in 2023, it was CF 50ish profile wheels
tires have always been at the head of every top notch setup
Ride On
Yuri
I'm prolly leaving something out...
in '74, a frame which fit me great
in 76, 6 spd freewheels (wheels...)
in the 80 it was ultra7 spd freewheels
in the early 90's it was indexed Shifters (Suntour Command shifters)
in the late 90's it was 8 spd 'Brifters' and ISIS cranksets
in the early 2000's it was HED wheels
in the Mid 2000s it was CF frames & 10 spd Brifters/drivetrain
in 2022 it was TPU tubes for road, and tubeless for MTB & single chainring & Clutch RD for Gravel
in 2023, it was CF 50ish profile wheels
tires have always been at the head of every top notch setup
Ride On
Yuri
I'm prolly leaving something out...
Last edited by cyclezen; 11-29-24 at 12:07 PM.
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Gruppetto Bob




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From: Seattle-ish
Bikes: Orbea Orca, Bianchi Infinito & Campione de Mundo
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Bikes: Orbea Orca, Bianchi Infinito & Campione de Mundo
Not to sound too harsh, but I feel like I bought the right bike in the first place. And that goes for my previous two bikes. I replaced things when they wore out, and tires have gotten marginally better over the nearly 300K miles I've put on those three bikes. They all rode/ride great and there are no miracles if you start from the right place.
I today’s parlance, that is called a ‘humble brag’. Well done on your purchases.
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Clark W. Griswold




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From: ,location, location
Bikes: Foundry Chilkoot Ti W/Ultegra Di2, Salsa Timberjack Ti, Cinelli Mash Work RandoCross Fun Time Machine, 1x9 XT Parts Hybrid, Co-Motion Cascadia, Specialized Langster, Phil Wood Apple VeloXS Frame (w/DA 7400), R+M Supercharger2 Rohloff, Habanero Ti 26
Touch points would be the biggest thing. Ergon grips, good pedals and a saddle that works for my rear end.
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Not to sound too harsh, but I feel like I bought the right bike in the first place. And that goes for my previous two bikes. I replaced things when they wore out, and tires have gotten marginally better over the nearly 300K miles I've put on those three bikes. They all rode/ride great and there are no miracles if you start from the right place.
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Depends on your starting point. What are you currently riding?
Road bike? If so:
-modern 28-32mm race tires, like GP5000’s or similar, are fast, supple, light, grippy and puncture resistant.
-wheels, lighter, deeper section wheels can change the entire bike.
-wide range rear cassette, something that will get you a 1 to 1 gear ratio or better for climbing.
IMHO, the best bang for your buck performance improvements.
Road bike? If so:
-modern 28-32mm race tires, like GP5000’s or similar, are fast, supple, light, grippy and puncture resistant.
-wheels, lighter, deeper section wheels can change the entire bike.
-wide range rear cassette, something that will get you a 1 to 1 gear ratio or better for climbing.
IMHO, the best bang for your buck performance improvements.
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Not to sound too harsh, but I feel like I bought the right bike in the first place. And that goes for my previous two bikes. I replaced things when they wore out, and tires have gotten marginally better over the nearly 300K miles I've put on those three bikes. They all rode/ride great and there are no miracles if you start from the right place.
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No offense if OP is actually a human, but threads with such general, open ended questions followed by lots of “great response!” and *[brand name]* mentions always scream AI marketing tool to me.
#22
All Campy All The Time


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From: Richmond, Virginia
Bikes: Listed in my signature.
Riding up grades, not upgrades.
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My C&V Bikes:
1972 Bottecchia Professional, 1972 Legnano Olympiade Record,
1982 Colnago Super, 1987 Bottecchia Team C-Record,
1988 Pinarello Montello, 1990 Masi Nuova Strada Super Record,
1995 Bianchi Campione d'Italia, 1995 DeBernardi Thron
My C&V Bikes:
1972 Bottecchia Professional, 1972 Legnano Olympiade Record,
1982 Colnago Super, 1987 Bottecchia Team C-Record,
1988 Pinarello Montello, 1990 Masi Nuova Strada Super Record,
1995 Bianchi Campione d'Italia, 1995 DeBernardi Thron
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utside of both feet after a 20 mile ride.
i also use Quoc Pham touring shoes, which while enabling one to walk in them, have lugs that reduce the width of my footprint. i think it is/ was a combination of little things added up giving me aches.
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"U" of the pedal perimeter and lugs to rest lower than the original. pedals. the pedal actually measures the same length as its predecessor, so it is certainly not dramatically different, yet different enough for my feet to notice the benefit.
so the shortened version is that my feet are planted more firmly on the pedal surface. i had gone through the exercise of slicing a groove where the front of my shoe sole hit the front edge of the pedal (about 2mm wide) and that continues to be a good indexing point.
i'm off for the winter months (northeast hiker) but in the spring i am wanting to try a pair of Dromarti shoes. DROMARTI The Finest Leather Road & Touring Cycling Shoes On The Planet – D R O M A R T I they are made a bit less tapered and have a wider toe box than
the Quoc Pham shoes.
i also like the Esprit pedals enough they will go on my '83 Raleigh winter project. NOS out of the box / never ridden. it will get complete disassembly to replace the 41 year old grease dried on its bearings.
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From: Hacienda Hgts
Bikes: 2026 Motobecane Mulekick 520 Steel 1999 Schwinn Peloton Ultegra 10, Kestrel RT-1000 Ultegra, Trek Marlin 6 Deore 29'er
Converting my cheap 29er MTB into a capable hybrid by swapping to a Salsa rigid fork, changing to Marathon Supremes 622-42 tires, adding Ergon bar ends, a Cobb enduro saddle, SPD touring pedals and upgrading the braking system to Deore, are all modifications that enhanced my riding enjoyment especially on rough pavement and hilly terrains.






