Bike wheel construction.. from raw-formed materials, to rolling art.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/smal...?ocid=BingHp01

shocker... all wheels are "hand built", once the basic pieces are created.

https://www.bikeradar.com/features/t...ing-revolution

This might lead to something if you had a question, or at least a point, for your post. Otherwise, it seems like you’re lately just using the forum like some sort of blog in which you post links with no point.

The point is to discuss wheel building and the ongoing argument that, somehow, hand built wheels are better than automated build wheels... and, as mentioned in the article linked in the reply above yours, the fancier the wheel, the more important the machine's precision and repeatability becomes.

care to comment on that subject, instead of attempting to insult me for beginning a discussion?
machines do the same thing each time... and they do jobs people can't or won't want to do.
When working at Freightliner, i used a 5 spindle automatic torque machine to install semi tractor wheels... it did 5 lugs to near perfect torque at once... pull it back, re-attain 5 more nuts, pull trigger, Done.
what that machine couldn't do was start ten lug nuts onto the fine threads on the studs, or select either bud or standard nuts for each special ordered truck coming up the line...... or line up the rims to the studs as the truck inched past on the line... or jump up and insert the filler hose into the radiator... or bring out the special order tire/wheel combos from the tire shop.... etc.

a really smart guy once said: judge not lest ye be judged.
he had a lot of sound advice.

happy holly daze.

I think Koyote's point was, you didn't start a discussion, you just posted a link to a video.

and he was, of course, Wrong.

you might want to note my false comment, meant to stimulate discussion.
so far, there has been ONE relevant reply, and two worthless ones. you are in my ignore list for such responses.

Let me get this straight; you posted a link to a video, and then made a comment about the video that was false? In order to stimulate discussion?

Go ahead and add me to that ignore list too, please.

feel free to not respond to any of my posts.

and, after careful review of your various replys and thread starters... bye bye.
here was a real gem.that stood out....
"I gave these a shot and returned them without riding. The gaiter doesn't work since it's so loose to allow ankle motion during pedaling, and the rest of the "features" don't really do much. Color combo aside."
RE: bright orange and white plastic shoes for Gravel riding...

ps... i never said WHEN i determined the statement to be false.. and you never asked.

Let me link the thread, it's a good thread people may want to read. Notice I was able to foster a reasonable discussion by telling the truth and sharing my experiences. No false statements needed, no silly games being played to trick people into engagement; never have, never will.

"To Ride, Shoot Straight, and Speak the Truth"

What do you consider a gimmick?

Impressive. I'd never seen machine building before, I imagined it as torquing all nipples simultaneously from the tire side while axle and rim are held in precision jigs, and then perhaps hand inspection and adjustment. The machine above looks much more precise in initial torquing, plus preventing windup, and self-inspects and fine-tunes for true. I don't know if it directly senses spoke tension, or only relies upon nipple torque value, both of which would be low in first spokes torqued, and have to ramp up, or initially going just on length and not torque, but computer programming for this would be easy. I also note a step where it appears to stress-relieve each spoke by pushing on adjacent pairs inward. Top notch.

Very cool video.
I'm replacing the spokes on my modern CF wheel and now I understand how the tensiometer readings on the old spokes were so perfectly even.

Ignoring all that personal banter above, I'm all in favor of the sort of posts you make. I mean, some days it gets tiring reading through titles and One More Time Can I Please See a Post Titled "Should I use WD-40 to lube my chain?"

Lordamercy, we get posts on "Trying To Make This Screw Fit My Fender Mount - Help!!!", and there will be 187 replies that discuss the molecular composition of screws through the decades from actual BF members who Are rocket scientists, why Hinault never used that particular type of screw in his famous 1972 assault on Mount Schermiet complete with photos of said screw and personal anecdotes from actual witnesses who remember seeing that screw as he passed by their chalet "at 4:11pm that fateful day of his descent".

Sometimes it's evident why inane posts get such interest, people are bored, nothing left to comment on that they haven't seen before, except Dan's "Fender Addition Problems With 1970 Sears Free Spirit."

Anyways, I personally never have looked at any video, or articles, or posts on mechanized wheel-building in BF, so your post was a first on the subject, for me. Kudos for the unusual. Cheers.

You do realize that is a perfectly acceptable and quite common way to begin forum threads, right?