I saw that in the theatre when it came out...the wife and I streamed it a few weeks ago. It still holds up!

Robert Shaw's performance was fantastic -- best part of the movie. It's especially impressive given that he was drunk the whole time.

At the risk of feeding the vultures, here is more info:

https://www.bikeradar.com/news/campa...e-redundancies

They intend to re-enter the mid-tier components market, and keep production in Italy. Maybe "Buy Italian!" will help. It's certainly patriotic.

In fact, his information is even more erroneous than that. He stated:
which is 3x as much as the linked price of $65/set, and 4x as much as they sell for at other shops ($50/set).

I didn't even address that, since I didn't know what to make of it. I mean, was he really suggesting that they sell single brake pads? I don't know how else to interpret it...But that's nutso.

Somewhere, there's a down-on-his-luck cyclist whose Super Record equipped bike is braking poorly, and he's hoping that if he can just get one new pad, he'll be able to ride while saving up for the other one.

Interesting. I could see how trying to sell only top tier products in a market so driven by riders wanting to have what the pros use would be problematic as those of us who lusted after Campy-kitted bikes in our youth age out of the market. If they can get more pro tour teams to adopt, and bike manufacturers to equip mid level bikes with Campy, that could revive their fortunes. You can only live on the glories of the past for as long as your primary customer base remembers them.

Good luck. That ship has sailed. A lot of the die hards have moved onto other manufacturers or aged out and the ones that are left aren't going to keep the company afloat, especially with road cycling becoming a shrinking market. The majority of biking consumers have shifted their attention to E-bikes, Gravel Bikes and MTBs.

That's the spirit!
 

Amen.

clean, then lubricate, which is pretty much what you do with every mechanical assembly
I know most people don't do that
you mention rebuildable, 40 year old components, other than replacing a wheel on the rear derailleur, everything else is original
if you take care of things, they last a long time

I have the original wood windows in my house which was built in 1992, nearly everyone else has replaced their windows, many within 10 years, why? lack of maintenance, I realize you high rollers wouldn't do anything like that, you take pride in how much money you spend, no time to maintain anything, no knowledge either, they all bought "maintenance free" windows to replace the wood, I like the look of wood. I also saved booko bucks a neighbor was quoted $46k for six windows, maybe that's why I own 2 sports cars and most don't own one

Wooden windows and sports cars......... What?:foo:

I never saw much price difference between Campy Chorus and DuraAce with is about equivalent. Record, and especially Super Record got silly, but those were more for the rich Dentists.

Recent youtube on the topic from Mapdec Cycle Works - his take is that Campag have mailed down the functionality and ergonomics with the new 13sp - now they just have to make the whole system more accessible .

In the mid 80's they had a mid-tier called Triomphe, Trek equipped a 501 Reynolds bike with it, I test rode it along with some other bikes including a Trek Shimano 600 (renamed Ultegra a few years later) equipped 631 Reynolds that was priced the same as the Campy, not only did you get a better frame, the 600 was vastly superior to the Triomphe. Campy has a big hill (some would say mountain) to climb if they hope to compete with Shimano in the bikes for the rest of us dept.

For me Campagnolo was not so much the mechanical function of the component, but rather the over all quality of manufacture. Nice polished, sculpted aluminum alloy parts that stood out as a finished product. The beauty of those Campy components has diminished. Now campy components appear similar to other manufacturers. Especially the dark subdued anodized parts that look no better then cheaply painted knock offs.

I am a knock off guy because I have not been able to afford Campagnolo. Yes, looks are in many ways as important as function.

So will Shimano buy Campagnolo?

Ha... Only if Prada could buy Versace...

Triomphe was perfectly good, although nothing special - it worked. However, I think Campag's more recent mid-tier offerings (I'm thinking Chorus specifically) are really good. The Chorus 12sp I have on multiple bikes is fantastic. I really can't understand why Campag persisted in focusing on ultra-high-end group sets - it seems like a misguided approach that may ultimately be their undoing. Maybe they were going where I see Silca going - less of a bike accessories brand and more of an aspirational lifestyle brand - beautiful but stupid expensive stuff that you buy as an indulgence. If Campag want to keep blood flowing through their system, they need to get more people in by lowering the price of entry, with Daytona- and Chorus-level wireless group sets - offering the same functionality and ergonomics as SR, but with less exotic materials, a little weight penalty and more reasonable pricing. "Regular" cyclists running entry-level or mid-tier Campag may aspire to a halo groupset like SR down the road, but few people, except gentleman cyclists and dentists, are going to jump right into SR. Time to also do away with the mechanical stuff - maybe keep a single Record-level mechanical/rim groupset for the nostalgia-heads who want to equip their old Italian steel frame sets.

I don't think that Chorus is mid-range in Campagnolo's viewpoint (nor was it abandoned). The mid-range they abandoned was variously occupied by Centaur, Athena, and Potenza.

Apparently, people that buy maintenance-free windows are just showing off. They’re bigger poseurs than the people that buy frost-free refrigerators.

Campy has a mountain to climb because they sold a group 40 years ago that you didn’t like? Okaaaaay …

And don’t get me started on self-cleaning ovens. How lazy can one be? I’m OG.

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I also saw it in the theater. The entire theater screamed when Ben Gardener’s head rolled into the hole in the bottom of his boat. “Here’s to swimmin’ with bow-legged women.”

My cousin went to VFMA, where a lot of “Taps” was filmed. He said George C. Scott was drunk during the assembly scenes and kept flubbing his lines. They had to sit in their full dress, wool uniforms in the hot cathedral for hours during shooting.

tomato coupe, interesting there is a faction of Campagnolo critics that lambaste Campagnolo for a perceived reliance on their glory years, and then there is a faction of nay-sayers that lambaste Campagnolo for shifting performance of parts from 40-50 years ago. Just can't win when nothing makes sense.
What I do know is I was all gung-ho on switching to Campagnolo electronic shift when it went wireless, however I am a rim brake user and it simply is not available, thus the good old fashion 11 speed mechanical remains in place on my daily rider. Not to worry as it has another 50,000 miles left in it.

i hear they're good for 3mph on the topend!

one of my Rally co-drivers, 20 years ago, aligned the etching machines that carve those components... he worked to tolerances called out in single digit angstroms... the pass thru leads in the newest gen. chips are smaller than those tolerances of twenty years ago.
the latest insulator materials are around two molecules thick, and at least twice as good at insulating, at that thickness, than the previous, much thicker, insulator material....
amazing stuff.
Intel Ronler is about to fire up.. now in the final testing phase.
a chance meeting with a hiker in the Columbia gorge led to that plant being built in the USA... i told him of a yellow jacket nest along the trail... we talked for a half hour... i reminded him that Henry Ford always paid his workers enough that they could afford to Buy the Cars they built... then asked where the bulk of his products were being sold... "here, in the US.".... ;) i later saw his pic online...he was the Chairman of Manufacturing for Intel... now long retired, i'd think. he seemed pre-occupied... i asked if i could help... he hesitated then laid out his dilemma... where to make a new product... here or the Philippines. he was a fellow avid cyclist... rode the North Plains, Oregon country roads, mostly... just a bit north of Ronler Acres. We shared a love of Helvetia Tavern Burgers.

Replaced most of our windows last year that were 1985 vintage. "Maintenance" doesn't do anything for double pane windows that lose their seals and fog up, or the increased efficiency you get with better seals, triple panes and more modern materials and designs (although compared to a lot of things, windows aren't the biggest energy loss). The hardware was also going - crank mechanisms stripping, etc. for which I'm unaware of maintenance that was missed. But mostly the fogging, some efficiency improvement, and aesthetics. But they are indeed expensive.

Chairman of Manufacturing? I think he was pulling your leg.