Because Bauke Mollema's words will live forever ...

Reminds me of the day I picked up my new Guerciotti TSX built from the frame up with Shimano 600 (now Ultegra) and Mavic Open Pros back in ‘93. A customer asked one of the employees (while I was out of earshot) if I “deserved” the bike. The employee told him yes, because I was paying for it.

Campagnolo wouldn't have to lay-off workers if they would just follow the Shimano business model and use Malaysian slave-laborers. Just sayin'

The plant that closed for a while in 2020 which made it hard to get parts.

Well Rene Herse is doing the front deraillers https://www.renehersecycles.com/shop...ever-operated/

and fully wireless gets around shift cabling :D

not directly related to any of this I really would like shimano to keep a cable actuated break option at at least the ultegra/grsx 820 level, that would give rim brake and cable disc as option in a builds

Campagnolo makes a bunch of stuff in Romania. But what do I care I'm neither Italian nor Romanian.

If a job moves from Italy to Romania, and later moves from Romania to Malaysia, it doesn't affect me. And if it happens to save me money on my purchase, I actually like it.

Now that Campagnolo is mass firing its employees, those people are out of a job anyway. Made no difference in the end.

Is there some kind of ai app that will turn a simple statement into this sort of pretentious drivel?

ShatGPT

They were??? Never saw any of their components on bikes back then. Its always been SRAM or Shimano.

:lol: POTD

I think what you meant to say was:

Does there exist an artificial intelligence application capable of transmuting a pedestrian pronouncement into such a resplendent, albeit bombastic, exhibition of verbal artistry?

Those riders would have performed just as well with Shimano or SRAM components. As always..It's the rider not the bike or components.

I think this assumes one wants to spend money or time rebuilding a shifter. I know I wouldn't want to do that.

Holy dumb idea!!!

I note that they suggest it only be used on bikes with fenders, ostensibly to keep wheel spray off it, but I suspect it's more to keep riders from getting fingers stuck between the wheel and the seat tube.

What's the point of having a large vocabulary if you can't take it out for a run every so often?

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un grand' uomo ................................. his name deserved better end:(

"Dying with dignity" is not something corporations do.

You would if you spent more money on that stupid shifter than on your kids.

Probably one of the most ridiculous urban myths oft repeated by the Campagnolo crowd was its supposed ability to rebuild easily and availablity of parts. Good luck finding these so called parts, then finding the watchmaker to disassemble and repair said shifter, all for a reasonable price.

Shimano also makes its parts available and rest assured they are easier to source than Campagnolo.

Shimano Shifter Parts.

That actually was the case back in Campy's heyday in the 1970s. I lived in Madison WI then, and if I needed any small Campagnolo part, I could be sure I could get it at Yellow Jersey. They used to deride Shimano because their components changed so often, and often needing different specialty tools, that it was a lost cause trying to keep up with small parts. If something broke, you'd have to replace the whole component.

It still is. If you are in the UK or in much of Europe, lots of places will rebuild. Velotech is famous for this as the owner tends to post on many forums. In the USA, lots of places will rebuild, Kyles bikes in Philadelphia is very good and as is ERA pro bikes. All of these shops can get parts directly. Campagnolo is priced to make repair an option. Shimano mechanical, not so much.

On the MTB side, rebuilds used to be limited but SRAM has made parts for their RD and that is a good thing to me. Not sure about the shifters, I don't think any are. Grip shift long ago but I have tossed plenty of Shimano shifters in my time.

FIFY :innocent:

Yeah duh. If one is stupid enough to spend a high amount of money on a less good product, then the outlook for the kids also can't be that great.

Because intelligence is a characteristic which is inheritable via your DNA, unless for some unknown reason your child doesn't have your genes. :innocent::innocent::innocent:

For aficionados, being ones own mechanic is one of the pleasures of cycling. I sourced the parts and rebuilt my 10 speed Record shifters, replaced my Ultra-torque bearings, etc.. Campagnolo instructional videos and parts catalogs are available on line.